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  1. #1
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    Aug 2006
    Central Tableands
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    Sammie so sorry to hear about the death in your family. Its hard dealing with the initial death and now all the arrangments. Make sure you take care of you though whilst supporting everybody.My sympathies to you and your family.

  2. #2
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    Apr 2007
    Sydney, NSW
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    ok.. im going to try my best to do personals, while his royal highness is silent. he falls asleep when i rock him and wakes up and cries as soon as i put him down, it's driving me crazy. and now he's starting to fall asleep as soon as he's on the boob. and then wake up wanting to eat again.eeekkk

    Lisa - sorry your mum has left. my mum goes back on Sunday, i dunno how i will cope!
    Jake might change in a couple of weeks, Lakshman changed the way he used to feed as well.

    Bron - sorry Will has trush.. i hate when all these health professionals think that certain things apply the same to everyone, that they can give the same advise to everyone. and dont listen to how you do things. moms and bubs are different, they might be doing things that work for them.
    it will be nice going home, im a bit apprehensive flying 8hrs. going is ok as steve will be with me but i'l be flying back on my own.. but Lakshman will be older so maybe it will be easier. and we'll also be in spore by ourselves, so a bit scared too. staying in a hotel and all.

    shell - hope you do get some rest.. it;s tough just having 2 hrs sleep. yes, altho i just went out for an hr, it was nice going out by myself.

    sj - so sorry to hear abt dh's unc. :hugs: it's mean of his mum to say that about molly jane.. sorry, if i was going to be b!tchy, i'd ask her who died when she was born...

    my Cm's changing now.. but not bothered.. how things hv changed fr TTc days!
    i have alump on the inner side of my forearm, feels painful.. not sure if a blood clot.. maybe its fr the way im carrying bub...

    typing w one hand.. so tired..

  3. #3
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    Aug 2007
    Tas, Australia
    288

    It must be wind that Lila is suffering from, poor little thing has fed at 8.30 am, 10.30, 12.30, 1.20 and 2,30...DH has her lying on his chest at the moment tapping her back with white noise in the back ground, she settles like this but the minute you leave her she gets upset again. She did a big chuck after her 2.30 feed, i'm guessing she had all air in her tummy yet was hungry and no room for food? Any suggestions on how to comfort her?

  4. #4
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    Jan 2008
    Euroa, Victoria
    438

    Hi Everybody

    Hi Girls.
    I just wanted introduce myself and join the group.
    My gorgeous little boy was born on the 17th of March. We called him Flynn. He is an absolute delight, although the nighttime feeds are a bit hard as he seems to think he can play after he's been fed! Hopefully we'll sort out the difference between nighttime and daytime soon!
    Anyway, I look forward to getting to know you guys

  5. #5
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    Apr 2007
    Adelaide
    314

    SJ - sorry to hear about your loss hun.

    Just how much awake time are babies supposed to have during the day???
    I've managed to get him sleeping ok at night for the most part but during the day he awake almost all day with very short naps in between and always wants cuddles. The only reason i'm able to be typing now is that i've stuck him in the pram to wriggle. I can get him to sleep on me but i can't put him down similar to what's happening with you i think Prama. It's driving me absolutely insane, i have no time to myself, no time with the other kids... i've been getting so cranky with everyone too..
    *sigh* well he's crying again i'd better go pick him up... again...

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    Jul 2007
    Mt Isa
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    I can only tell you what I've experienced with Jake, he sleeps pretty well!!! his routine changes a little each day but tends to follow the same pattern each day, the times just vary a littl each day.

    5am-6am - Feed 20min (80-100ml by bottle)
    Sleep till 8/9am
    Awake from 9am - 11am
    Feed
    Sleep from 11am - 4pm or more
    Feed
    Awake from 5pm - 8pm
    Bath
    Bed time from 8pm - midnight
    Feed, change nappy
    Sleep from midnight to 5/6am

    He sleeps well and has improved since his windy episode! he is a pretty easy baby so far!!! (thank goodness)

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    Aug 2006
    Central Tableands
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    Well we had our first visit from the health nurse this afternoon I was so nervous with fear she would say I was doing it all wrong.She could not have been nicer an d praise about everything I was doing and how well Will is doing.He put on 330grams since he left hospital last thursday and grown 3 cm since born amazing.She was really suppotrtive of how I am feeding and said to give up the expressing as he seemed to be getting all there was to get.She was happy with my mental state too*L all things considered.We will treat Wills
    thrush with some gel for up to a week after I am off antibiotics but she said it isnt bothering him at this stage.
    So happy to hear my boy is doing well it encourages you to know you are doing the right thing.

  8. #8
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    Jul 2007
    Central Coast NSW
    919

    Yay Bron, well done it really makes you feel so much better when you know they have put on weight then you can enjoy them that little bit more cos you aren't worrying as much.

    So sorry for your loss SJ how sad, thinking of you and your DH. What a stupid thing MIL said some people should think before they speak.

    Welcome catherinemoses congrats on the little boy Flynn, the boys are really outnumbering the girls now, looking forward to hearing more from you.

    I have heard that boiled water is good for wind as it pushes the wind through as the milk just sits on top and then if they burp they usually chuck, i think you only give them 1teaspoon and don't give water instead of a feed. Have also heard that too much dairy can make bubs really unsettled and for me i can't have onion, too much broccoli or salad it makes it hard when you have to cut things out.

    Summer has been so cranky and windy today, poor little bubba she was so overtired and beside herself when we got home from soccer training but she is finally asleep. She sleeps pretty well at night, i am lucky too, but not expecting it every night as don't want to push my luck. She gets so worn out with all the outings we have.

    DH is gone back to the single parent for a few weeks, at least i wont have to pick his undies up off the floor or his wet towel on the bed hehehe.

    Hope you all get some sleep xoxoxox

  9. #9
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    Apr 2007
    Sydney, NSW
    4,329

    expressing and typing w 1hand, so short post!

    welcome catherine!!!!

    lisa - wow, well done w his schedule!

    jade - sorry hun, i know its frustrating that he wont sleep or lie down by himself. i cant do anything and my RSI is getting worse. Im seeing the nurse today, will ask her... dunno if it will help..

    bron - woo hoo!!!!!! well done!!!

    trina - sorry dh has left and you're back to single parent..does he travel always?
    wikll ask nurse abt water.

    had trouble putting him to sleep again last night. he falls asleep, in our arms and as soon as you put him down, he's wide awake and screaming...;(

  10. #10
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    Jan 2007
    on the sunny Eastern Shore
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    Hi girls, I keep meaning to introduce myself here, just waiting for things to settle at home so I can take my time!

    I just wanted to pop in and say quickly to Lisa that my Jake is only 9 days old and right from around day 3 I gave him Infacol as we had some terrible windy days while milk was coming in. It does say to check with your GP so if you are worried but still want to try it just check with your GP first. It worked for us!

    Anyway I must go while the house is quiet, will pop in and introduce myself a bit better when I feel more organised and have more time. Look forward to getting to know you all!

    xxx

  11. #11
    Registered User

    Apr 2007
    Adelaide
    314

    Finally had the chance to stick in a new birthday ticker with a pic..

    Welcome Bec, and anyone else i've missed over the past few days. Wow its been absolutely crazy hectic...

    I'm sorry i've lost track of some of the posts so i don't have a clear picture of whats going on with everyone.

    Prama, you're having such a tough time hun I realy feel for you. Just remember, like it says in your signature 'From little things big things grow'

    SJ, it sure is a juggling act! i've just gotta keep reminding myself that things will get better. THe hardest part of it all is that when DH is at work i have no chance of a nap during the day when Ryan's asleep. I have to get all my sleep over night, which is of course really hard during the day if i haven't slept enough its extremely hard to cope. I've actually been wondering if i have postnatal depression but really i think its all sleep related. I can go for a week maybe a little more with not much sleep but further then that and i turn into an absolute monster.

    Trina, i really feel for you aswell hun with your DH gone. I know i could not do it without mine around, you're so brave to cope so well!

    How on earth do you girls get your little ones to sleep in a cot?? none of mine did until they were at least 6 months, they were all in either a pram or rocker permanently so we could rock them to sleep.

    As hard as it is with Ryan awake so much, he gives his rewards aswell. We've had quite a few smiles out of him, and they're those gorgeous big open-mouthed grins too.
    I've been watching so many movies during the day for something to do since i have no hands free generally all day. Lots of girly movies... i've seen just about every Jane Austen remake there is i think... ooh, also just got into a new TV series 'The Tudors' dunno if anyone else's heard of it. I think it might only be on foxtel at the moment, not sure, but its out on DVD anyway and i've become quite addicted to it.

  12. #12
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    Jul 2007
    Mt Isa
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    I don't know Jade....I've always put him into his cot and he's gone to sleep

  13. #13
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    Jul 2007
    Central Coast NSW
    919

    Jade can you see someone to help you with ideas to settle him? I went to a day stay centre with Paige as she was impossible to settle, I would have to rock her or hold her all the time and so she couldn't fall asleep without it so it was a bad cycle they helped alot but she still woke up several times a night for over a year. I know how hard it is with other kids, adds so much more pressure and stress. If you are feeling like it is too much maybe you should talk to someone about it just to rule out post natal depression hun. Big hugs to you
    Summer is in a cot now and she is pretty good, she is a little unsettled in the last few days so wants more cuddles but when i put her down, she likes to be on her side and i just pat her butt or stroke her head until she relaxes and closes her eyes which is never longer than a couple of mins. I have put a couple of towels down one end of the cot so she is a little elevated too. And Ryan is soo cute love the pic xox

    I haven't been able to do much today, Summer wasn't too happy and when she finally went to sleep i had to wake her up an hour later to pick the girls up and then again to do the rounds for music lessons so by the time dinner time rolled up she was very cranky and overtired, seems to happen every afternoon now the witching hour and she just wants booby and the girls are starving and going crazy ARRRGGGHHHHH! I get a headache every afternoon now......

    Im off to the couch while all kids are in bed xo

  14. #14
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    Jun 2007
    Brisbane
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    Hi all,

    Wow ... there's so many in this thread! You must excuse me if I don't do personals just yet, I'll hold off till I get to know you all better. Thanks for the welcomes that I've received.

    Have a question for you ... do any of you have any tips for increasing milk supply? Up until yesterday (wed) morning I was producing milk ok as I could express 80-125ml within 20-30 minutes. Then, I got up yesterday morning and for the past almost 48-hours, I've been struggling to express 60ml in an hour. I'm expressing as Cam gets very stroppy and/or lazy on the breast and he needs to regain the weight he lost after birth.

    I absolutely can't work out why my milk supply has decreased . I've been expressing approx 7-8 times a day (and have had Cam on the breast where possible). I read where Fenugreek (spell?) tablets can help increase milk supply, so I've been taking those for 24 hours, plus drinking lots of water and milk and eating eggs, cheese, avocado etc (good fats). I've been stressing a bit about it today - had myself a wonderfully self-indulgent sook this afternoon in fact, but I'm lucky that I've got a very supportive DH. I ended up buying formula just to be on the safe side (I don't want to get 'caught' with a hungry babe and a very low milk supply at 3am). I gave Cam a bottle of formula tonight to see how he'd go, and he took it fine. But, I'll keep expressing and trying Cam on the breast at the start of each feed, and hopefully we'll turn the corner soon and my milk will increase. Amazing how BF comes reasonably "easy" for some, and is so incredibly difficult for others. I reckon I'm somewhere in the middle as long as my supply picks up. At least there's hope of getting Cam on the breast full time.

    Anyway, any tips about increased milk production would be warmly welcomed. Otherwise, our little man is a delight. He sleeps quite well, although he does suffer a little bit of wind. I've given him gripe water on a couple of occasions, and that does seem to help a bit. I broke two of my "golden rules" within three days of bringing Cam home - he now happily sucks on a dummy and I also bring him into our bed for an hour or two if he's particularly unsettled during the night. So much for my 'no dummy' and 'no sleeping in our bed' policy. I now think 'whatever works and gives us all sleep!".

    From reading through the thread, it seems all our bubs have their own little quirks and habits. I have to admit, when Cam's peaceful in my arms, I could just watch him for hours. Imagine I'm not the only one who feels that way.

    Take care all,
    Andie

    ps: Reenie - I was at mater mothers private hospital. The care that Cam and I received was absolutely excellent and I couldn't recommend it more highly.

  15. #15
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    Jun 2007
    Brisbane
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    Reenie,
    Hun, just saw your post. Huge hugs to you. Hope things get better on the homefront, you do not need the stress either one of them is putting on you - especially right now. I've had some similar issues with my DH and my parents, but they're all working on understanding each other a little better and being more tolerant. Good luck.
    Andie

  16. #16
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    Dec 2007
    Brisbane, Australia
    88

    Angry

    Hey ladies. Beware of long sob story below. Felt I needed to vent.

    Prama, On the infacol topic, I gave DD1 infacol from 2 weeks to help ease the pain. GP gave aok. Also just a side note, From what I have been told, its not advisable to give a newborn water, especially if they are not feeding well. It messes with their appetite and feeding patterns. For wind try lying him face down on your knee or arm with head to side and rub their back. It works wonders for both my little munchkins. Gravity helps get it out. I had the same trouble too with DD2. She is wanting to snuggle rather then sleep in her bassinette. Which makes her snack feed. So what I do is express milk and bottle feed her to know she is taking a good 60mls at least. Then I put her down cuddling a rolled up towel on her side. I prop her up pretty good on her side, and she feels like she is cuddling and goes right to sleep. I know the whole sleep on back thing for SIDS is important, but my mother did it with all four of us, and it has worked a treat for both my littles. If they do bring anything up in their sleep, at least they are on their side (propped up so they can't go on tummys) and won't choke. Just my suggestion. HTH. It is such fun isn't it?

    I ate DH's choc prune brownies the other day and I found it gave DD1 the runs through my breastmilk!! Poor little love. And ahhh such dramas with family stuff atm. My mum is up here helping me until Monday. She had a go at DH for not helping bring in the shopping last night and it just snowballed from there. He did not like being told off in his own house. Male ego blah blah blah. Then this morning my mum apologised in her own thorny way, by saying " I am sorry about last night....it's just I am used to my husband being considerate. He is my knight in shining armour." I watched in horror as his face twisted with rage. I asked him to let it go, thoroughly annoyed that my mum had to go and tack her little unwelcome snidiness on the end of that awful apology. Of course then, he asked her to leave and not come back. He also said that he would pay her $1000 for her help so far. He took off to pull the money out. In the meantime I am balling my eyes out, and telling my mum not to go. I sent her over to my brothers house across the road so we could have world war III. I explained that as insulting as my mum was to him, he should be more tolerant, as she was here helping me. He had no right to boot her out, as this is OUR house not his.Also of course he was so rude in attempting to pay my mum off like some slave for hire.
    His mother says awful things to me and he never defends my line, nor do I react the way he did. I keep quiet in order to keep the peace and harmony and consider his feelings.
    Argh. So he is staying away until mum goes on Monday. He realised that he should put his feelings aside so that I could the support I need for just these few days. But Man am I angry and tired from the days events. He has gone away, but now I am copping mum going on and on about how awful he is and how I should've married that guy I was seeing 6 years ago!!!
    Has anyone else ever had these dramas?? I hate being stuck in the middle of all this BS. What a time for this to happen.

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