Long Term TTC & Assisted Conception - Feb 2008 #1

[plc1805]

Thanks TL hun! Would you believe I just ordered the book online?! I looked it up and it sounded so interesting. Saw the info re podcasts and thought may stick to the book for now. Thanks so much. I'm feeling really good about myself and this month and wonder whether I should just relax and give it a go anyway.

[Peta]

Hi Girls!
Thanks for all of your comments on adoption. Have looked into it a bit more & there is an information night in brisbane in March, so may attend that. I have 2 lots of cousins (from opposite sides of the family) who were adopted, so it is a known identity in our family. The statistics are not too encouraging though, there are a total of approx. 13 children up to 2years placed in Qld each financial year. Geez, you would have to lucky! Think we'll stick to the IVF track for a little while longer.
Hope you all had a lovely weekend. Mine was great - I am just so sick of this rain. Can't do anything. My motorbike lesson (yes I am going for my license soon) was cancelled, so will have one this sunday instead. As it turns out we have bright sunshine here today, typical for a work day!
9 sleeps till my next scan. At least it is in the near future now. Hopefully all will be well to jump into the next cycle!
Take care girls & I'll speak to you all soon.

[Baby Bliss]

Very intrigued by the Spirit Babies thing... can't find his book anywhere handy though. Might try some podcasts first. I had a dream 12 months after we started trying for #2, and 3 years ago now, where a child told me I had to keep trying or she would not exist and that would just be awful and I couldn't let it happen. It was SO powerful. but being that long ago now, I have pretty much lost faith in it. I am not overly religious or spiritual, but this has still tweaked my interest. Thanks for sharing

[Acacia]

Hey everyone,

Sorry to be MIA for so long and thanks for your posts along the way even though I haven't been here - have had very limited time online since last Wednesday, and was waiting today to post my news, after I received it.

Kell - I'm so sorry to hear about your cancelled cycle, hun. So frustrating that you're body is being stubborn and unpredictable. I admire you so much for dealing with that factor on top of all the other factors we contend with so well. You're very strong to cop all this stuff as it goes and keep moving forward. What a woman! :hugs:

FG - hope DH is recovering well - what a shock for you both. Very glad to hear that he's ok. You must tell him I understand the stuck-at-home factor - when DH takes the car to Melb for work I am stuck at home about 5kms from town too! Arghhhhh!! Hope you're doing ok yourself. Hang in there with the waiting for AF to arrive. Got to will her on this time round, silly isn't it? Hugs.

SP - any news on your follies? I am thinking of you and hoping for the best, sweet

Peta - keep hanging in there with the IVF, hun. It makes you want to think about options because it is so frustrating and disappointing at times, doesn't it? I've talked about adoption with DH in a couple of brief conversations here and there, but it doesn't feel like a real possibility for us down the track if needed because of the move o/s and the amount of time it would take to settle there first before I'd be able to qualify... at least that's our thoughts about. But I reckon you've got the right idea going to the info session - really good idea to be well informed about it


This morning I had my third BT since getting a beta level of 25 last Monday. I got the results at midday - my levels were finally at zero today. I reckon I can tell, because my face has been breaking out consistently for the last day or so Always get a breakout on my nose in particular when my hormones shift direction. I had to wait for the nurses to get the all clear once and for all from my FS (which took until about 5pm!) but the good news is I'm allowed to start on my medicated FET today. I start HRT today, and my first scan is next Wednesday... yay!

It feels like today is a proper conclusion to the last cycle - like a BFN that should have been, IYKWIM? I'm glad to be moving forward, but at the same time it gives a bit more of a sense of something that might have been, now that it's over. All good though

Hope everyone is well - hugs to all,

Miss C

[plc1805]

Sorry guys - I really need your help.
Would you put TTC on hold for 1 month cos your naturopath (or alternative medicine equivalent) told you to wait for herbs & vitamins to kick in or would you say this month might be my chance to conceive and TTC anyway with or without the risk of m/c. I really need to know what you each would do in that situation.....
I'm going thru a thing....

[slyder]

PLC, I'd definitely keep trying this month. Personally, I'd be somewhat wary of a natropath who tells you that you are at risk of m/c unless you give their treatment time to work. That's just my opinion, but if your only reason for waiting is that advice, I'd say to disregard it.

[Baby Bliss]

I am with Slyder. I would keep trying.

MissC I am so glad you can put it behind you and move forward with another FET. Cheering you on, my friend.

[Peta]

PLC - I definitely agree with the others, keep trying, you just never know what might happen. I get most frustrated when my FS makes me wait 6 - 8 weeks between cycles, so if you have the oppotunity, I say grab it with both hands & run!
Miss_C - so glad to hear you're doing ok. I was a bit worried for a while there. Sorry last cycle didn't work out . Very pleased to hear that you are going straight onto FET. Thanks for your thoughts on adoption too. It is appreciated.
Sylder - how are you & DW going? We don't seem to hear so much from you lately, you must be very busy.
Well girls, have a great night & I will speak to you all tommorrow.

[tiggerlinda]

PCL - If I felt right I would go this month AP can help prevent a MC

Miss C - So gald you got your answer hun Best Of Luck

Me 1 month till Lap today yay!

[plc1805]

Sorry guys if I sound a little crazy. I just suddenly felt so desperate about what to do. I wouldn't have held anyone to ransom with their comments but just needed to have some fresh thought on the matter. I do feel better and clearer about what I want to do. Thx TL, Peta, BBliss, Slyder for your comments - they helped.

[~BecD~]

I have come to the conclusion that I am not a lucky person.

We went to the clinic this morning for our counselling appointment at 9am, but when we got there, they had no record of our appointment. It must have "dropped out of the system". Fan-bloody-tastic. DH had to take half a day off his new job to get to the appt, I'm getting a migraine, but we travelled in peak hour traffic to get here and now we don't have an appointment?! They were very apologetic but there was nothing they could really do. It was really important that Murray could come along because he is really struggling with everything, maybe moreso than me.

I am just so over all of this crap! First the dramas with the IVM price change, then not having a frozen embryo, now appointments not being recorded.

Has anyone here ever written a letter of complaint to their clinic? I want to make some comments and suggestions, but I really don't want to affect the relationship between us and the clinic. For all their faults, I do really like my specialist, the nurses and other staff, plus they are the only clinic doing IVM, and I don't want to jeopardise my treatment.

Am pulling my hair out right now.

ETA - Just got a call from the clinic receptionist who has organised us another appointment with the counsellor next Monday evening.

[tiggerlinda]

Bec,

the system sometimes does fail us and I am sorry for you.

In relation to your letter I would go along the lines of friendly suggestions and cover off your frustrations but highlight the positives.

Happy to be a sounding board before you send it if you like. I know what it is to want answers and I wish I wrote a letter to the clinic that stuffed us around rather than being scared of them telling me I was still young like they always did.

Good luck and I am glad you have an appt next week

[Baby Bliss]

Geez Bec, you are having such a rough trot, you really are I know I had a couple of wobbly moments when I was forgotten my first cycle, it is hard because you have to have utter faith in these people. You are trusting them with something that has an enormous affect on yourself and Murray. When you go to hassle to get there, it is utterly devastating and it feels far worse than it should, because it all piles up. Thinking of you, my dear friend.

[Peta]

Bec - what a mess! i certainly would write a letter - maybe they could do with some constructive critisim, there is obviously a procedure which is falling down somewhere internally for them. i am probably not the best person to check the wording with though - i tend to fly off the handle & be far too blunt most of the time. i hope the new appointment they have given you is at a more convenient time.
General question - has anyone else noticed that the quick reply function has disappeared off the bottom of the forum page? i can only reply via advanced & hence not look back on everyone's posts to respond.
How cool TL that it is only one month till your lap. I hope time flies by for you.
Have a good afternoon everyone!

[plc1805]

Bec - I just can't imagine what ur going thru. At least you have an appt for next week but what a nuisance and inconvenience as far as today was concerned. Can ur hubby get time off again? Oh, I don't know how I would have been in that situation - try to focus on bigger picture I guess. Easy for me to say isn't it?

Hello and hugs to everyone else - thinking of each of you.

Sorry to go on about me again but just thought I'd keep you posted.
I've just come back from my OBGYN. As you may recall when I was having my crazy time last night that I wasn't sure about not TTC as the naturopath had suggested or to try anyway. After my OBGYN appt, I feel that all of my prior hysterics pale now cos I'm up against some other stuff. He basically said that 7 mths is considered a long while TTC especially when one will be 37 in May and not got a huge amount of time. I felt relieved at least that it was not all in my head and that I should just be relaxing more - my concerns actually were well-founded. So I am booked in for a lap on Thursday morning to check what's going on, possibly endo, possibly something else, possible nothing at all and, if nothing, maybe it's unexplained infertility. I kind of didn't expect that I would need the lap and all that but, hey!, what makes me so special - heaps of people on here are dealing with those and heavier issues all the time. My DH doesn't get off scot free either - he has to get his boys checked out. I actually feel more sorry for him (he's so shy, poor guy) than I do me. Btw, the OBGYN doesn't believe in naturopathy, says acupuncture is ok-ish, and not to waste time by not TTC.
I have had a good cry - going through a range of emotions and thoughts - now bring on Thursday. I can't get over how I can be so rooty-tooty fertile one minute and "all dried up" the next. Sigh!.... I don't mean to offend anyone with anything I may have said.

[tiggerlinda]

SP I do hope all goes well

PCL - Good luck on Thurs sweet

[scooby]

Hi everyone
Just thought id join in here as im out of the TWW with another BFN, startting IUI with puregon this time, so we will see, there is something so exciting about getting your own sharps container . See FS on friday about maybe starting IVF, very scary thought, but i think im in the same boat as you SP, i know its going to be much harder than IUI but the thought of another ectopic is freaking me out way too much, not just the ep itself but then having to wait another 4 monthes before trying again.
PLC: i actually study natural medicine (homoeopathics) and i did a few units with naturopaths and i heard the wait 1-3 month thing and i kinda get where they are going with it but i dont think they truly understand what that means when the monthes are sneaking by. In homoeopathics there is no mention of waiting as they are suppose to kick in straight away, herbals do take time to work and they also like putting you on certain diets in Naturopathy which can unfortunately release toxins into your body, not good for growing bubs. So avoid diet changes is if you are going to try straight away, but other than that i dont think she should be talking MC's just because you havent had the herbals yet. So i wouldnt worry.
Well good luck everyone

[MeredithD]

Hi ladies,
Sorry, been MIA as really busy and was away over the weekend.

Bec - so sorry about all the stuff ups. They really hit you hard when you are a bit emotional anyway. I think a well worded letter with your concerns sounds like a great idea

PLC - Hopefully the Lap sheds some light on whats going on and even if not, there seems to be some theory of increased fertility after a D&C (which they do at time of lap usually. I got pg with DS less than 2mths after a lap!

SP - i get you on the frustration of IUI cycles. its either not enough follies or to many!!

I am officially in the tww atm although the cycle did not go at all to plan
After such a slow start my scan lat fri showed 6 follies > 10mm. I had one mature at 16mm so ideally should have had trigger then IUI 36hrs later. But guess what, 36hrs later would be Sunday - the one day clinic is closed. Because the other follies were not far behind they would not let me stretch it another 24hrs for fear of multiple pregnancy. So choices were to cancel cycle entirely or trigger and just DTD. After 2 weeks of injecting, there was no way I was letting those eggies go to waste so DTD we did over w/e and crossing fingers maybe nature will be kind! Having acupuncture to this cycle so praying that helps a bit