Starbright - I have a friend who does a similar thing. The four of us plan to go on an overseas holiday next year and when we get back is when they will start ttc. She has said to me and you can be pg then and our children will grow up together!! Yeah, that is how it is going to happen, I just put my order in. Have you not been around for the last 5 years!!! It's funny because she can be so supportive sometimes & then come out with comments like that. What can we do do? All we can do is pick ourselves up when these things get us down and move on to the next day with positive thoughts & hope that our babies will be in our arms very soon. Empty Arms was just beautiful, I am glad you had a cry. Really wish some tears had of fallen for me. I just won't let myself cry about the big stuff in my life but I'll cry about stupid things like dh not picking up his dirty clothes off the floor (mind you this is when my hormones are running crazy!!!).

Sk - that is true about the concious & subconcious. We have to stay positive as in the long run it will help!!