Can't believe I am doing this again ...
Mon, I hear you and I understand that ppl can make insensitive comments, but if they don't know that you are IVF, how could they know not to make a comment like that family friend of yours. I am sure that if he/she had known what you are going through, he/she would not have been so insensitive. Not that it make it right to say ANYTHING about other ppl that does not have children. And not that it does not hurt less when ppl don't know and say stupid things. I think this is just me being like I am and trying to defend the hell out of ignorance. I agree with you about that manual - that would have been great!!! Than no one would make iffy remarks, say stupid stuff and try to teach you something that you already know.

Sometimes the stupid comments come from the fact that people do genuinely care, and just have no idea of what to say
Hear, hear! When you don't know jack sh!it about something, you say what you heard other ppl say. Hence that irritating thing about " just relax and it will happen" Kim, I would never give advice on something that I know nothing about, but like I said, some ppl would think that you really do not know stuff.

BW, I am glad that you could have a laugh (and some cereal :P ) and feel a whole lot better today.
Like BW I am going to leave the ring. I am not interested in this thread to see how many ppl I can upset and evoke. I came to the conclusion and decision that I would not be discussing ANYTHING about ANYONE I know who are pg or don't have children (that is in person off-line) I am adding reproduction on my list of NO-GO topics, along with politics, religion and bowel movements, unless brought up by the other person.
THANK YOU!!