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    Oh My God - SB - I am so happy for you! My MIL told me to stand on my head with my legs crossed for 9 months - my head is getting al,ittle sore but at least I wont feel so silly with you doing it as well! WHoo, hoo!!


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    kat - just posted to you in the other thread but a huge congrats hon, stick sprout stick. time for for you know who, some green guys, some
    georgie - love the new ticker, your bees look like they're starting to get jiggy with it, lol
    naomi - good to hear from you, feel free to move to the pg thread where you can talk about yourself, your pregnancy, your feelings, your fears etc. they're loads of wonderful supportive women there. look after yourself.
    jo - stay away af, praying everything for you

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    YAAAAAAY SB

    Naomi - You should pop into the pg thread, everyone there knows how hard the road is. Hope all is going well with you and that we will see you at the meeting next Tues.

    Jo - and for

    Georgie - Only 1 day to go - and for !

    Lee - I hope your friend is ok, how awful!

    Hi to everyone else, hope you are all doing ok.

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    SB - I am so happy for you! That is awesome news

    Jo - I hope you are wrong and that af is not late, I hope she never comes at all!!! Thinking of you

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    Congratulations Kat and for you...
    laying low here not TTC this cycle, after 3 yrs I just can't be bothered anymore.
    I'll be around just not as often.
    hugs
    Judy

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    Anthonysmom: I had PCOS and went on clomid back in 1995 and had a successful pregnancy. But nowadays I think they give you metformin (an insulin regulating drug) first. They now think PCOS is linked to insulin problems.

    Hi everybody, I'm joining this thread now, too. I have three healthy children (praise God!) and four miscarriages, the last being in October. And yes, we're TTC.

    Actually, it's kind of wierd. We didn't actually start "trying" for a baby, but back in 2005 we decided to let nature take its course--no more TTA. We got pregnant almost immediately but lost it, then had two more miscarriages, one in 2006 and this last one. (My first miscarriage was between my second and third live births--naturally, I thought it was a fluke).

    If I had just gone month after month without conceiving, I would have been disappointed, but philosophic about it. I knew I wasn't going to take any drugs or procedures to conceive, just do it naturally, because we do have three kids.

    But I never would have predicted that instead I got preggers easily but couldn't hold them. So I'm doing tons of research into how to prevent a miscarriage in the future.

    Two questions--what does CD mean and DTD? Wishing everybody here a BFP sooner rather than later!

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    Judy - It is hard to find the motivation to keep going after so many slaps in the face. that not trying will be the key... although it never was for me

    TM - Welcome to the thread... sorry for what you have been through, hopefully you will be able to graduate very quickly CD = Cycle Day & DTD = do the deed

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    howdy everyone.
    Georgie- lol, what a yucky way to loose weight - there has GOT to be a better way! chocolate may not mend sorrow, or help our waist lines, but it certainly feels good! lol re the diary and why our dhs get so much hotter at certain times of the month. so true. a little natural libido can't hurt. i agree with Klee- end the year with a "bang" or two. love the bee slider - perhaps he has an operational "stinger"? sorry for my off-color joke.
    Barbara- i'm so sorry to hear about the test results. sounds like Lynn has some good information. i hope the tech was right, insist that your OB get back to you quickly - you deserve it and NOW. big hugs my dear.
    Lee- lol re the "slider" - every girl does need one. i've a one track mind today. sorry to hear about your friend's accident - too many kicks is right.
    Kat- woo hoo for you! i posted on the other page too, but yippee skippee again!!
    Jo- keeping my fingers crossed and thinking good thoughts for you.
    Naomi- howdy and big hugs to you . like Klee said, please come over to the preg thread if you find yourself in need of support. i do all the time.
    Judy- big hugs to you, sweetie. i'm sorry not to "see" you as much, but hope you can come to terms with your decision.
    TM- welcome and i'm so sorry for your losses.

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    First for the good news - 2 OBs that I know and have consulted with don't think my polycystyc cysts are anything to worry about since I fell pregnant quickly and don't have problems with my AF. If she rears her ugle head in a timely manner then I should be fine. . .although my OB will still run all the tests.

    Catrionlee - We also lost an angel baby in November. We fell pregnant quick the first time so we are hoping it is quick agai. We are not yet ready to TTC (we aren't even allowed to DTD yet) but this is a great forum. The ladies in hear are so supportive.

    Lynn - Thanks for the facts on PCOS. My OB is going to test my hormones and other levels in January to make sure I am not affected.

    Naomi - Thanks also for the info. My OB did also say she was going to test for insulin resistence next month.

    Late congrats to SB. You give us all hope.

    TM - So sorry for all your losses good luck TTC

    Auntie M - My OB didn't call me back fast enough, so I called him until he called me back and told me he agreed the cysts probably were no big deal.

    Jo - good luck

    Now the not fun news. Last night my OB called with the results of the autopsy. She said the only thing out of the ordinary was that my son had inflamed membranes. It could mean infection except that I wasn't running a fever. She said maybe a viral infection though, but doesn't actually think membranes mean anything helpful. Now I go back Jan 4 to go through a slew of tests for clotting, lupus, etc. It is so hard to think that my son was developing perfectly and that it could have been my body that did this to him. All new levels of guilt. Even with everything, I feel ok today.

    Barbara

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    Mel1977: thanks for the definitions!

    Anthonysmom: glad to hear they don't think pcos is a problem for you. Of course, if your cycles start to get irregular and sparse, you'll be able to take steps quickly, so it's good you know about this. And good luck with your tests in Jan. Keep us posted.

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    anthony's mum- i got a little teary hearing i give you hope- becuase for months i was lapping up all the hope form the other preg girls- and omigod- i am now one of them!! Emotional as it is- i have been told it is worth the wait.. i will let u know. I wish you all the best in the coming days and weeks so you can get right into ttcing soon!!! The guilt is the worst of all the feelings- i felt like i let all my babies down because my stupid body kept messing things up- good luck with the testing- i discovered i have anticardiolipin antibodies- it is a clotting thing- i was also checked for lupos- came back clear- and i have also been told i had cmv (cant spell the real name- but its a virus linked to cold sores and a bit like glandular fever- makes you very tired and can cause some probs with bubs) but i am now apparently immune to it... i pray you get the answers you need to make this a gentle journey for you and your dh

    There are a few new faces in here- i think its a lucky little thread- we have had quite a few bfp's pop out in the last few weeks!! Goodluck ladies!!!

    Judy i am sad to hear that you are having a breather- however do what you need to do- like mel said- i hope NOT trying brings you some luck... i have finally yahoo'd you- please stay in touch xoxox

    Naomi... love the ticker!! I will try the standing onm our heads thing- i will admit to doing the arse up after sex to get here!! LOL i would hang upside down to help those swimmers find their way- seemed to have worked... And dh thought i looked silly with my legs flinging in the air!!

    hj1981- have you had any news yet?

    Tm- please pass on any advice about preventing m/c- being only 5 weeks- i am still in the first danger zone and would really appriciate any tips!!! i am at a cross roads at the moment regarding taking my aspirin yet or not- i have had a few different opinions- and i am scared either way i will make the wrong choice- take it and i shouldnt have- dont take it and find out i should have... i am seeing a specialist on monday so i figure it cant hurt too much to wait until then and see what he says.

    I had a energy meditation thing today- im not sure what to really call it- but it was great and really lifting- a lady took me through a meditation thing and cleared alot of my neg energies and guilt and hang ups i have been carrying regarding my losses- i am not saying it was a miracluous cure- there were tears from me and the lady doing it- and it is something you should only do when you are open and ready to do- but if you are into that sort of thing i highly recomend you seek a energy healer- i can not express the difference i feel in myslef and in my heart. It is something i recomend to anyone who is carrying guilt or even just lingering saddness that you feel may be haltering your ttc attitude. i will stop preaching now- but seriously, if you are open to it- give it a go!!

    Good night ladies and welcome to the best support group in the whole world!!! I wish you all the best of luck for your futures!!!

    Love StarBright
    xoxoxox

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    JO
    skipping into another thread sure brings some BRILLIANT news - well done!!!!!
    Yahhhhooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! !!!!!!!!

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    Ok - I'm in serious need of some advice. I went to a highly recommended Chinese medicine guy on Friday and to say it went badly is an understatement. Firstly - alternative medicine is right up my alley so, in going, I had pinned a lot of hopes it. I've been seeing a naturopath since before we lost Alfie (april) and felt that while I was getting somewhere personally I was no closer to the BFP. So I tried this guy who has had incredible results in my circle of friends. Bascially he told me this
    1. Hormonally I've shut down completely
    2. It would be impossible for me to carry a healthy baby at this point ( but worse) he doubts I ever will
    3. I have become obsessed with having a baby and this has caused me to have clouded judgement over every other decision making process in my life
    4. While he's happy to work with me he believes that it will be six months before I am functioning at a level that will support a pregnancy - however he stressed that after six months he believes I will no longer yearn for this child (hmmmmmmmmmm) and that I have only dreamed of another child for the last six years because of this clouded judgement
    5. If I did happen to conceive in this time that it would end in a disasterous result.

    So I've cried uncontrolably for 36 hours and feel like my dreams are shattered...now here's the problem...I am not so fickle that just because he said this it must be true however I do accept that the physical health of the mother and father at the time of conception is vital. So I think it's important to continuing seeing him. But I'm anxious that he might be right.
    He didn't say "Come to me, we'll do some work, get you on track so you're ready to go" he was saying "Come to me, I will fix you up but prepare yourself because you're not going to have another healthy child"
    So my question is this...At what point, for self preservation alone,do you prepare yourself that maybe this will never happen? Do I stick to my guns and drag myself, DH and our painfully aware DS and DD through this journey that never seems to end? and if I do throw in the towel - WHAT IN THE Bl***Y hell has the last six years been about? Is it possible that this journey will end without the happy ending? If so, I'm not sure how to begin to deal with that.
    I understand that I can completely dismiss what he said as rubbish and keep on going but, truth is, what he said touched a very very very raw nerve and I'm terrified he may be right.
    George

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    Oh Georgie babe!! What a cruel man to say that to you. If he considers it is just yourself and your "clouded judgement' stopping you- then surely the "problem" can be helped!!!!

    So what he thinks that as soon as your body is ready that your mind will give up!!!! Oh dear- please dont let him "cloud your mind" with such neg thoughts. i personally would try and see someone else who may be open to actually helping you- he is saying he is willing- but he is not doing it with a positive out look- and that in the end will NOT help yiu inn the slightest.

    Ok- maybe he is right that right now your body isnt prepared- ok- u can deal with that- but to say that it never will is not fair- you HAVE carried healthy children- and yes you may have some underlying anxiety about doing it again- but this can be healed and i honestly have no doubt in my mind that once you feel your body is ready that your mind is going to be happy and still WANT that precious baby.

    Do you feel in yourslef that you want a child- or do you just want to prove you can do it again- i personally think its the first- you tried the first time- becuase you wanted another baby- and sure things have gone wrong since- but that first feeling is still there- you started trying because you want another baby. I personally wouldnt see him again- get a second opinion from another chinese medical person- or even travel another road- where do you live??? I would recomend my energy lady- and also keep with the naturaopath and maybe try homiopaths (sp) and accupucture (still chinese i think) and go from there.

    Personally as someone who has been trying un successfully for nearly 5 years, yes this process does cloud thoughts and run lives- but it wouldnt be doing that if you didnt want it so much.

    Another big hug to you Georgie- maybe ask your other kids- if they are aware about whats happeneing- maybe ask them- do you want mummy to keep trying? if they say yes- then go for it babe- keep doing what feels right.

    xoxoxoxoxx
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    gks: Don't forget, he's only one guy with one opinion. They always tell you in western medicine to get more than one opinion, especially if its a serious condition. I'll keep you in my prayers.

    StarBright: good luck and prayers for you, too. I'm surprised at how much new information there is out there now--like the clotting thing, who knew? I always thought MC was just "one of those things." The most progressive thing I did with my last MC was to get my progesterone tested. But I'm learning more.

    Thats what I love about this bellybelly forum. After my second and third MC's I sort of drifted and lurked around other MC sites, whatever I could find by Googling. And there are lots of them out there with forums and stuff, but they were all about emotional support (which is great--I'm not knocking it because you need that too) but very little about causes and preventions. Here there's TONS of articles and information about the medical aspect and tests and stuff.

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    Yeah- tm- thats how i found belly belly- when i discovered i had anticadrio i googled and a gorgeous lady Deb- (who you will meet as soon as she is settled home with her gorgeous miricol Imogen) had just recently written an article in here about it- and google just popped me right in it- its was very lucky- and very usefull!! I then met Mel1977 who has the same thing, i too thought mc just happened- but since learning about Aca- i know it is a huge cause of early mc- and then if you get through the first 12 weeks- it causes blood clots etc.
    Of course- sometimes mc is just because things arnt 100% with the egg- thats life- but if you find its happenening alot- then its an indicater of something else going on!!

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    SB - I only wish that one day I can be the one with the BFP and have a h&h pregnancy and can be the one to give hope to other women like us who need it.

    georgie - please don't let this man discourage you. I will keep you in my prayers.

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    Jo, see , goes to prove it can happen hun. I hope all goes well for you with your pregnancy
    hugs
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