Crafty - I'm sorry you got a BFN think it's crap you can't get medical assistance - wonder if it is worth ringing IVF clinics in other states just maybe a FS might know someone who would help you in WA or be able to treat you with drugs inter-state? Clutching at straws I guess but it's just frustrating to read - my SIL is 45 by the way and she is going through Melbourne IVF so they must treat older women there. Would you like me to find out who it is?

Ferrals - I hate taking the pill too. My FS is pretty adamant he wants me to do it with this cycle but I really don't want to and the TCM doc agrees with me and thinks there is no reason why I have to take it so haven't gone on it - guess we'll have to have that convo with him soon and see if he'll change his mind. Are you still taking your chinese herbs? I have lost some weight doing the diet but it's full on as you know and not easy to manage. I'm around 63 kilos and would be happy to loose a few more but not too much as that's a good weight for me.

MurryCod - you're very quiet...are you OK? Are your kittens keeping you distracted? Sending you lots of love x