Thanks Onemore.....I know exactly what you mean and no it didn't offend me at all.......what hurts me the most about all of this, is how much not only does the ex treat me like i'm nothing, but she also does the same to DH, but at the same time she expects him to open his arms and and accept her and now a grand baby to boot......it has been a really hard so many hours, but at the moment we are trying to do our IVF as we have wanted this for so long, and figure that what has happened isn't going to stop us......thanks for your kind words......kiya :-)