Rozzie - It sounds like you are going through a lot at the moment, and it all sounds very familiar. Just so you know, it took me a long time to tell people about this baby. In fact I waited until I was 15 weeks to tell my brothers and my dad (my mum and sisters knew). DH told everyone the moment we had the 12 week scan, but it was just too raw and emotional for me. I still find people who I am friends with that don't know and it is now a little embarrassing having to say 'Yes I am pregnant and 32 weeks'. I found it very hard to 'share' the news as I didn't want people to get excited and jump around, and I was also paranoid that the more people I told the more that would need to again be told if we lost this bub - which of course is a terrible and negative way to think...but hey I can't control my thoughts all the time. So just do what feels right. There is no set rule to these things, some people make their announcements at 8 weeks...and others like us wait.
Tildy - I am so glad that your latest bleed was nothing new and that your placenta has moved up. It is all sounding wonderful. And yes I understand how hard it is when people want to ask about names etc, when all you want to think about it how long until your next scan.
I am so sore, I have to go and have a shower to try and get rid of the aches and pains.
Really quickly, thanks for your input into my holiday 'dilemma'! I now feel a bit silly! Just had a moment of panic and needed to come into here to hide I think. Anyway not sure what will happen, as when DH got home he was thinking about having some time out by ourselves anyway, and he said there would be about 10 people in this house, so I am not sure now what we will do!
Tildy - Wonderful that your placenta has moved up!!!! Great news on passing your driving test! Have a great 3 wks off too.
Rozzie - I felt for you today when your colleagues asked about Edward, I have just received an email from a girl that I studied with when I was pregnant with DS. Last time I seen here and another colleague I was just showing. She was asking about our beautiful bouncing baby, I still haven't had the courage to write back.
Katie - I hope you have had that nice warm shower and you are now nice and comfy!
Cindee & Sue - How are things with you?
Paula - I hope your holiday was nice.
Lan - hello:
& Jo - Last but definitely not least, . I am so glad they included Jack on Madison's birth certificate, what a wonderful treasure for all of your children. I hope I will be '5 months pregnant' in January!
hi girls everything is fine here, feeling ok which is good no MS for 2 days now .. see Ob again next week shes really good.. ok better go now its 2am and id better get some sleep. been up all night trying to finish assignments.. its so much fun
Everything feels so positive here at the moment. it's really nice to read through everyone's posts and see how well you are all doing. I don't think our lives are ever completely smooth sailing but one thing I love about all you girls is how you all appreciate the little things. I guess experiencing such heartache gives you a different perspective about what's important.
Helen, you have really thrown down the challenge on the garden. My in-laws arrive next friday and they are total green thumbs so i have enlisted their help (don't trust my own gardening abilities) and we are going to get Charlie's Garden up and running. The guy on better homes and gardens assured me on tv the other night that if i plant now I will have yummy tomatoes for summer. I'm not so confident but am going to give it a shot!
Cindee: you freaked me out with your passing out. Don't make us get all bossy on you. I am so white it is ridiculous but picture me right now doing that black woman thing with my hand and saying don't make me come over there and whoop your skinny white ass now girl friend.
Sue: I am so excited about your ticker and think that you are so brave for putting it up. Isn't it amazing how such a little thing can take so much courage. I bet all the other women who get BFP's can't wait to go and put their tickers up and yet for us it is such a big deal. Good on you. And as far as staying here goes, it should be us begging you to stay here with us. We need all you PG girls to stay here and give the rest of us some hope and inspiration. I for one would be devastated if you left so PLEEEEAAAASE stay!!!
Tildy: what good news from your OB appointment. Your ticker is so close to 12 weeks now. I know that 12 weeks is not quite the relief for us as it is normally but it is still a major milestone and will hopefully help you to relax a bit.
Rozzie: you are so close to 12 weeks too. I can only imagine how stressed you are about your scan next week. No-one on here is going to tell you it will all be fine, not because it won't be but because we all know that it is the wrong thing to say... but we are all hoping it will be fine like you wouldn't believe! If that counts for anything then you have nothing to worry about. The whole telling people thing is such a hard decision. Because of my earlier miscarriage I was like that when I was PG with Charlie. Even after my 19wk scan I was still so anxious I just didn't feel like going around telling everyone. The more I showed the more people started to mention it so I didn't so much as announce the PG I just stopped trying to hide it so much. The sad thing is that it was only a week or 2 before we lost Charlie that I finally starting telling people and getting really excited about it. I guess you just have to go with what feels right for you.
Jo: when I read your post about Madison's birth certificate I was so happy. I hope that doesn't sound inappropriate but its just that I had never thought about my next bub's birth certificate and to know that Charlie will be on there just made me feel so happy. Our angel babies are so rarely acknowledged out in the real world (that's what I love about this group, we talk about them no differently to our earth babies) it is just so lovely to have them recognised in such an 'official' way. Thanks so much for sharing that with us.
Katie: 32 weeks WOW. I am so excited watching your ticker. And all those beautiful aches and pains, how awful and yet how wonderful!! I feel like its the countdown on New Years Eve and we're all counting down the weeks with you and then when bubs arrives will all be tooting and cheering and for those of us who aren't PG having a glass or 2 of bubbly!
Well I thought I'd have time to fill you in on my trip but after catching up on what everyone has been doing I'm out of time. I'll be back this afternoon to fill you in.
Woooh, I love logging in and finding heaps of posts to read.
Rozzie, you're having such a hard time. Being asked about your baby is like being punched in the gut, isn't it? It physcially knocks the wind out of you. Do whatever makes you feel better, Roz. Buy the bigger size uniform and don't go maternity until you're ready to. Your peace of mind is the most important thing for you and your bub now.
Tildy, fantastic news on your Ob appt. Keep moving up placenta!
Katie and Jo, I would love to catch up with you guys. I actually thought of it before the trip but didn't want to just throw myself at you and also I had two very full days of meetings. Next time!
Jo, that's wonderful that they included Jack in Madison's certificate along with your older kids.
hey girls!
you were all very busy overnight. I have just been called into work earlier so had to pop on before i went!Luckily it is just 10 mins up the road!
Thank you all for sharing in my (weird) happiness re: birth certificate. I wrote it because for those of you who have had later losses i thought you may be able to do the same thing with your next babies certificates when ordered. I just wrote his name and gestational age then stillborn in the spot about previous children and they included him! so with your next baby certificate you should all def try to get your angels name on it! I think it has also semi helped in "closure" not that it is closure but i hope you all know what i mean as last night i really began to think about ttc. Depending where i am at and what they say to me at monash maybe dec we will try as i want to get to a natropath and go go on my folate again for about 2-3 months beforehand....ok, maybe that will the extent of my convo on that topic as i have just got teary!
mrs robbo -man, you put a HUGE smile on my face with your "picture me right now doing that black woman thing with my hand and saying don't make me come over there and whoop your skinny white ass now girl friend" - thank-you for starting my morning off with that! (even though it was strong advice to cindee -i just loved the way you put it!!!!) I love that we feel so comfortable with each other that we can go stern if ness! Because we care!!
hammi - I would make the time for you! next time....
cindee -2am!!!! please take care ok! Don't burn yourself out!!!
hgirs -you are not being silly - everything has much more meaning to us now!and we do tend to second guess everything! A holiday whichever way it comes will be good for you!
whichever stage of prep you are at! katie has been on trips galore it seems (to me anyway!) and look where she is now!
sue - hope you are ok and feeling good about all of love for you to stay with us!!!
rozzie -dh came home last night and said we have been invited to a party this sat. Only prob is that a couple who lost their baby on the same day we lost jack (they were 10 weeks) are preg again and have already been into work to show off her new belly (just before we lost madison) and i still don't think they know that we was preg or that we have lost another baby. I told dh i don't think i can go even tho the hosts are being really thoughtful about my emotions at this time -i don't think i could face her belly right now or having to explain why my emotions will be out of wack. its so bloody hard and it sucks that we are out in these positions after all we have been through already! I am happy for them and that things are going well for them this time - i just don't need to do the explaining. Take care of you, ok!!!! Do what you need to to look after yourself!
katie - i'll facebook you later re: your ob!
ok, have to go! i will, be late for work! argh!!!! hi to all i have missed!
have a great day! x jo
Thank you so much for the lovely emails about staying. I am so glad you all feel that way. I feel that I know all you guys and that I feel so much more comfortable here.
Tildy - I am so so happy all is OK and congratulations on passing your driving test.
Rozzie - I am so sorry about the end of your working week. I must be so hard trying to explain all the time and bringing up emotions. Maybe your work should have advised people (especially in your dept) about what has happened, so that you didnt have to deal with that. I will be that your NT scan goes well on Wednesday and will be thinking of you.
Katiegirl - how exciting to have all the aches and pains.....
Lan - Your are not being silly with your holiday plans. We all go through these emotions, but you need to do what is best for you and DH. If you need sometime alone, that sounds even better!!!
Cindee - Glad things are going so well Have you still been fainting??? My god girl, get some sleep - 2 am!!!!
Mrs Robbo - what a lovely thing to do with the in-laws, I bet they feel so priviledge to do this with you in memory of Charlie. My DH and I put our tomato's in last weekend. So I await to hear of all the abundence of tomatos in the following months... he he he
Jo - I am so glad having Jack on the birth certificate of Maddison helped party with the closure. It is lovely that both little angels are remembered in such a simple way which is so important. With TTC you must be very emotional, which is totally understandable. Maybe focus on getting fit, healthy, see a naturopath etc and see how you feel in a couple of months. I must admit, I think the naturopath helped me in conceiving naturally this time.
Well with me, had another bout of severe cramping after bowel movement this morning. I ended up ringing the Ob and the secretary asked me if I had been eating cabbage or brussell sprouts etc and I said Yes, as I love this food and she actually said this could be the reason, as they produce a lot of gas...... I am so glad there is not bleeding with it!!!!
Well it is my DH birthday today, so we are heading off to dinner tonight to a lovely restaurant - looking forward to it.
thanks everyone
mrs robbo-- i might be skinny behind but my belly looks like im 5 months pregnant instead of 2 months. but it was pretty funny had to buy maternity wear already.
been busy studying and doing assignments as next wek is last week of school and ive got a lot to hand in. kids have been sick a lot this term so ive gotta catch up.. cant wait till chrissy that means no more study .. Yay
other than that ive got more blood tests today.. sooooo much fun.. just hope my son doesnt try to attack the pathologist while the needles in my arm again last time i had a bruise for over a week.
bp good atm. drugs are doing the job atm...
anyway id better go ive got stuff to do.. might go swimming later too its getting hot here...
be back on later..
hope everything is going ok with everybody..
Jo - don't go to the party if you think it will be too hard. Being faced with a pregnant belly especially if they potentially don't know about Madison could be very hard. Just do whatever feels right. You need to learn that sometimes you have to protect yourself and if that comes across as selfish...who cares! I am not sure I could put Nathaniel on the form you mentioned as he technically was not a stillborn because I didn't deliver him. I wonder if it matters all that much - I could just write his name and write stillborn and see if it gets through?
Hgirs - just thinking back to all the trips I have done this year (and yes Jo is right there has been a few) - there was one work conference I pulled out of because it was in Alice Springs and I would have been away from DH and my Dr for a week. I didn't fancy having something go wrong and being stuck in Alice so I pulled out - I was only about 14 or so weeks pregnant and had not told work etc. I have also managed to always plan Ob appointments prior to going away - for instand I saw my Ob and then went to Syd for 5 days (I was with my mum so that made me feel a bit safer). And your DH is probably right, you both would probably prefer to have some time alone rather than with 10 other people.
I feel so lazy today. The unit is a pigsty...I was hoping my nesting would kick in but no such luck. I have a lot of errands to run as well but the couch looks very inviting at this point. Maybe a cup of tea and some bad midday tv and then I can get myself moving again?
, I still haven't had the courage to write back.
that your NT scan goes well on Wednesday and will be thinking of you.
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