Porsche- it sounds like its quite normal to not have any symptoms with IVF cycles! FX for Saturday, POAS if you have to to keep you sane!
WBM- I would say if Af is still happening it's unlikely to be o'ing, but that being said I've no experience with this becasue my AF has usually left before I even taken the clomid!! OPK and see what it says
Jules- HOw are you going this cycle? Haven't heard much from you. Are you ok?
Liz- GL for tomorrow (again!)
N2L- have you tested yet? I can't remember when you o'd... but I see you're coming up for CD 30! GL
Hi to everyone else, and anyone floating around cyberspace looking for someone to support them in their clomid battle!
AFM: Well, DH, DS and I finally headed off to the new FS today. She has said we don't need to do IVF yet (yay!), becasue I seem to have an average level of fertility once I actually ovulate (3 pg in 12 rounds of clomid/gonal is about 25% which is normal), but NO MORE CLOMID! She has said that I need to have a whole heap more tests to confirm the PCOS diagnosis, and check hormones and chromosomes for both DH and I. DH has to get those swimmers checked too. She was very upfront and said the first thing I need to do is go off all the drugs for 8 weeks and go on a get fit & healthy program and lose weight (I knew that!) So after this TWW if AF arrives, I'll be in no mans land untill all test results come back and I go back to see her (29th Sept). She is keen for me to keep taking the metformin if my test results show I do have PCOS not just PCO (My old doc just assumed that I had it apparently!), and I'm not to take the blood thinners unless a need for it is shown. So here's the plan:
1. hopefully get pregnant this month so I don't have to do any more meds!
2. Go nuts on exercise and meal replacement shakes for 8 weeks
3. Get about 4 litres of blood taken to check EVERYTHING!
4. Start gonal f on a higher dose with management after I've seen new FS on 29th Sept.
I'm feeling pumped at the moment, but I know the wait is gonna kill me. At the same time it will be nice to have a break for a while and just work on me.
So sorry about the all about me post, but I wanted to let you know that I might not be in much for a while after this cycle. So you all have to get BFP's this cycle so I don;t miss anything! I suppose I should move out of this thread too, since I wont be doing clomid anymore, but I don't know if I can leave!
Anywho, I have two whole weeks before I even need to worry.
Bye for now,
Bec
So got results today! Clomid didn't work!! Arrrggghhh! Its so frustrating, the lady from the docs office said that it obviously worked on one ovary, but not the other?? Does that make sense? I suppose the alternate every month? So she is going to get the doc to look at my file and call me on Wednesday or Thursday and decide from there whether i should wait it out or start taking the tablets again!!
In other news, i have let my FF lapse out of membership, decided it was doing my head in!! So i have a calander i am going to mark up clomid days, fertile days etc etc!
Anyway! Our internet is finally connected so i will come back on and catch up where everyone is at!!
So sorry I haven't been on at all this week. I find I am too busy at work to get on and when I am home am fighting DH for the PC plus we had a busy weekend.
I have read back but won't attempt persies past this page b/c I am working tomorrow and am off to bed soon (I get up at 5am so need lots of sleep!) so won't have enough time to post.
Anyway, Bec - So glad that you getting a different perspective & getting bloods done again etc.... At least you will know the info is up to date.
Kris - Sorry to hear Clomid didn't work. I haven't had any issues only Oing from one ovary on Clomid and was of the same opinion as you, that they usually alternate. Sorry I can't answer you q
Hi to everyone else, I hope you are all well (well as good you can be) and fx for someone to announce a BFP
AFM - Somehow I have stuffed up my CD days some how & am actually on CD28 - I counted back tonight from the m/c (red blood) to work out where I am in my cycle. I was secretly hoping we caught that egg but knew it was a long shot with our lack of DTD. (no AF yet but sore BBies have gone & have lower back ache which indicates AF is lurking) I actually have a script for Clomid & was thinking of doing a sneaky cycle prior to going back to the FS but am scared he will know somehow if I don't fall pg prior to starting IUI in Oct!?.... Also have to get some recurrent m/c testing & should really try to do that before Oct too but have to go to the hospital to get it done & the only time I can go is with DD..... Seriously need to get get my butt into gear & lose more weight too. Have gone off the rails and am eating everything in sight & not exercising....... I think I am still emotional about my m/c but have sort of blocked it but can feel those emotions rising to the surface every now and then. Just don't want to have a major meltdown at work or somewhere public - IYKWIM? Anyway sorry for the me post & rant... I obviously have needed to get all that out for sometime. Will try to be a better BB friend and frequent & post more often. I do think of you often all & lurk quite a bit but get sidetracked... Take care x
Glad to hear you finally had your FS visit! The course of action seems very different to what you were anticipating. It must have come as a bit of a shock having a change of plan like that. Hope you are okay with it all. How did you find her? "Up front" is a good way to describe her. She doesnt mess around and she isnt one for the touchy feely approach. I kind of like that about her. But I imagine some might find it a little full on. Welcome to the "need to lose weight and get fit club". I am the President!!!! lol. I weigh 105kg at 5ft6. So I definitely need to lose. LOTS!!! I have lost about 16kg in the past two years. Unfortunately PCOS makes it harder I can thoroughly recommend a couple of websites to help. My advice (not that you asked, and I hope you dont mind me offering it up) STAY AWAY from shakes and other meal replacements. They dont work. They really dont. The absolutely best - ie scientifically proven - way to lose weight if you have PCOS is Low GI. Feel free to tell me to pull my head in! AS far as you leaving this thread for another...I think I can speak for everyone in saying I am happy to pretend you are popping the clomid along with the rest of us.... ; )
Still no news from me. I'm 14DPO today but still only 11dp3dt. AF "should" be due tomorrow and I have smallish AF type cramps. They are there but not like normal if that makes sense? I tested this morning lol And as I expected it was a BFP thanks to Pregnyl. The test will be if it stays there or disapears over the next 4 days.
Bec - Wow mord testing. That is a bummer you have to wait for a month until the results are in. Are YOU happy with all that?
Rhichichi - I would do the clomid anyway to keep your cycle regular but it is totaly up to you. And all I can offer you is some virtual GBH.
Miss Kris - What a disapointment you didn't O on clomid. Have you heard anymore on what you need to do now? You naturally ovulate in one ovary at a time. They alternate each month.
Just had a quick read over the last few posts. It looks like we are all in need of some good news. ASAP!!!! Fingers crossed the next few weeks are better for us ALL than the past few weeks. I probably shouldnt post because I am feeling sh+tty and disappointed So sorry for the self-indulgent rant ahead. I think I had pretty much talked myself into thinking the clomid was going to work first time around. Even over the past few days, everything seemed to lead to that conclusion. I know I ovulated (bad pain, +OPK test), I BD'ed like crazy at the right time, I had some light cramping seven days after O'ing (told myself that was implantation), been feeling tired, slightly queasy, my boobs are aching, etc, etc, etc. BUT THEN...I woke up this morning and I felt sooo "period-y". My face has broken out in pimples (REALLY attractive in a 39 year old professional!). I have had slight cramping (kind of pre-AF cramp cramps), I am sh+tty (PMS) and, to confirm it all, tonight I did an Early Response HPT and Big Fat Negative To make it worse, it is only 9 or 10 days since I ovulated so that means I have a short luteal phase apparently. Great. Dammit.
Sorry. I must sound so pathetic for those of you who have been on the clomid so much longer than me. I know this is just the first time for me and I have only got a slight chance of it working given my age. But I guess I had my hopes higher than I cared to admit. I just needed to vent. Unfortunately DH isnt giving me much support because, apparently, he "knew it wouldnt work the first time". Wish he'd told me! lol. Oh well, enough of the tantrum. SORRY!!!!!!
Anyhoo....like I said, time for some good news from someone!
Take Care all
n2l x
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Im so confused! The doc is meant to be giving me a call back en of this week with some instructions on what to do, ie, go ahead with clomid tablets or wait and see if i ovulate?? I can't use the OPKs because i can never bloody get a + even though i did ovulate when using them!! Yesterday and today i have had some strong stabbing pains in my right ovary!! So not sure whats going on there?? Maybe i will ovulate this side?? I cant bloody tell and i really dont want another blood test cos my bruise is still there from my last one!! Lol! Its a doozy of one!
Hi Everyone
Well lots has been happening but I will only do persies on this page so sorry if I miss anyone.
Kris - maybe they did your BT too early and you are only just O'ing now. Keep DTD and hopefully you will get lucky.
n2l - feel free to have a tantrum, we all need to sometime, and I agree that we need some good news in here too.
Porsche - I don't know how you are doing it, the week must be going soooo slowly, hopefully it ends in good news.
Rhi - Know what you mean about lurking and not posting, I do that too cause I can check the posts on my phone but it is too hard to post on there.
Bec - Try and avoid shakes and meal replacements cause they may work at the start but then you will put it all back on (+ more usually) when you start to eat properly again. I started my new diet yesterday so I will let you know if it works.
Liz - How did the appointment go?
Mel - How is everything going with you, how are the SE going? I think DTD every second day is probably a good way to go.
Hi to everyone else.
AFM - CD11 and day 2 of my new diet. Had my appointment with the Dr last Thursday and he thinks that I did O but the BT was done too early (as I suspected). So I have one more cycle of 100mg Clomid and then nothing and if I am not UTD by then he will look at surgery. Have to keep an eye on my temps to try and do BT at right time this cycle.
Shan
It seems like we are all having a crap week, if it helps, I believe there is a full moon just around the corner (or just passed, can't remember which?), so maybe that is why everyone is having a hard time!?
Kris - I agree with the others, you ovulate from either ovary, but it's completely random on which side you ovulate from in any one month, so you might ovulate on the right twice and not necessarily right then left and so on, as it's based on the egg, not the ovary. Also if you lose an ovary, you should still ovulate every month as the most dominant egg (which if you only have one ovary will always be on the same side) is the one that is released. It doesn't make any sense what the lady said, how can "it work on one side" but you didn't ovulate? Either you released an egg or you didn't!? Hope that the doc can shed some more light for you? Like Shan said, keep DTD anyway, just in case!
Bec & N2l - I think that we are all in the same boat with the diet! For any of you who also has PCOS, you will know though that anything that tastes good is on the naughty list or at least the avoid list and even if you exist on lettuce somehow you still manage to put on weight (well I do anyway). Also exercise is probably the most important part in managing PCOS, but if you are like me, then being a fatty (I call myself that with affection) makes you want to exercise even less! I just feel so uncomfortable, and everything seems to wobble way more than it should, so I become disheartened very quickly!!
n2l - I feel for you, I am trying not to, but I can't help but hope the first cycle will be my last. So if it doesn't work this month, I am sure that I will be in a very similar headspace!!! At least you ovulated, and that is a great step in the right direction I really hope that you get that BFP very soon!
Shan - How are you feeling? I know you are a day ahead of me, was wondering if you had any cramps or any feelings that you might be going to ovulate soon?
Porsche - Sounds like good symptoms... FX'd for you!!
AFM - It's weird, I don't know what to think. I am on CD10 and while I wouldn't say I still have AF (haven't REALLY had her since end of last week), but this incredibly light, brownish spotting is still happening. It's like at the very end of AF when the blood is older and the last few "dregs" are coming down and only really when I wipe. Anyways, not sure what that is about... As for the ovulating, I am feeling a bit crampy occasionally from the Clomid and still have the hot flushes. Did an OPK and have a faint, but obvious line, so just waiting for the line to get darker now!! Decided that DTD every 36 hours would be the way to go, that way I alternate between morning and night and it's often without being too often, IYKWIM? By the second and third cycles I may not be so enthusiastic...
Hi ladies!
Shan- I'm glad you o'd! Hopefully this month will be yours and you wont need the surgery. Is it a lap? Thanks for the advice on the diet. I don't plan on doing meal replacements, although my FS suggested I try them. I know how to eat well, in fact I do each quite well, but I know I don't exercise enough, so I'll work on that. Good luck with your diet, hope it works for you!
Kris- we're about the same in our cycles and I only ovulated Sunday/Monday. Hopefully you did and you can just wait and see
what happens this cycle. It's bloody annoying having to wait for dr to call back! I really hope you did just o and all is well.
Porsche- hugs and patience go out to you!! Any sgs?
Jules- I wondered if you were ok. I've been where you are and I know I just wanted to throw myself back into TTC and I'm not sure if I was ready. Life keeps on at you, but take time for yourself to deal with your loss, if you need it. I know I was very angry that I kept m/c and it has taken me some time to be ok that I felt like that. I HATED pregnant people, especially if they conceived at the same time at me and were having normal pg. All of this you know, I know, but also know that you can rant and rage and vent as much as you like here to us. humungous hugs to you. Feel free to lurk and not post as much as you like! As Porsche said, I don't reckon he'd know if you look the clomid, and it might make your cycle more predictable.
N2L- bugger AF showing up, how annoying. Talk to your FS about progestrone if you have a short luteul phase, it can be fixed. It's never easy, finding out you're not UTD this month, but each month is a new chance. I will admit it gets harder to remain positive! Darn DH's just don't get our impatience sometimes do they?!
How's everyone else going?
AFM: I'm glad I finally ovulated! So at least there is some hope for me this month. Porsche, to answer your question, I'm actually a bit peed off at having to wait even longer. I get the whole get fit thing, and I'm happy to do it, but I'm reluctant to stop taking clomid or gonal or whatever and then have to jump start things with the primulot stuff which I hate taking becasue the AF is so painful. My new FS was good, at least she has a plan, I guess I had just resigned myself to IVF being our best option. She did say if all this doesn't work, we can do IVF, but DS is already 4 (almost) and ready to start Kinder next year and I kind of wanted to be there for him during the Kinder year, not worrying about IVF cycles and meds. I guess I was just pinning my hopes of getting an immediate resolution.
My only issue with FS was her immediate assumption that I had never tried to lose weight. I am VERY overweight I know, but I have been trying to lose weight since I was 14, and I have had some success, but the weight just doesn't stay off. I've put in the hard work and seen little or no results. Frustrating!!!! Anyway, I'll work my butt off (hopefully literally!) and see how we go.
God, I ramble on. Sorry!
I can thoroughly recommend a couple of websites to help. My advice (not that you asked, and I hope you dont mind me offering it up) STAY AWAY from shakes and other meal replacements. They dont work. They really dont. The absolutely best - ie scientifically proven - way to lose weight if you have PCOS is Low GI. Feel free to tell me to pull my head in! AS far as you leaving this thread for another...I think I can speak for everyone in saying I am happy to pretend you are popping the clomid along with the rest of us.... ; )
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