Parenting after LTTTC #2

[onthefly]

That sounds so great Sazz.
LOL at C with your bras! DS likes putting my undies or bra on his head and running off with them when I'm in the shower. He actually never asks for "nya-nya" when we're out - far too busy then!
Enjoy your holiday planning - anywhere in particular in mind? We're off to NZ this christmas

Glad to hear you guys have settled in BG. Your little girl sounds delightful. Hope you're feeling better soon & enjoy those sleep ins.

[butterfly_warrior]

Sazz, the more I think about it, the more I envy your ability to be able to move on and close the AC door. I'd like to, I'm happy with Sam and I'm not sure my health could stand up to another child, but with two frozen embryos, it's really hard. I'm still no closer to being able to make a decision as to what to do with them, but still can't put them out of my mind, even though we're probably about two years away from being able to use them ourselves. *sigh*

Unfortunately, Mr Sam has had enough of watching mummy play with the puter so I've got to run away...

Hi to everyone!

BW

[Shannon22]

Sazz definately not mental i think extremely brave and selfless are the words that come to mind here. I really wish i could do it sometimes i feel like its kind of an addiction (i know maybe im the mental one) after we fell pregnant i was a little lost i didn't know who i was if i wasn't ttc because we had been doing it for so long, and now the thought of going again is scary because i dont want to end up like that again. Ahh i HATE AC!

We have an appt with FS on the 31st August. We are going to see how we feel after the appt, DH want to get he little fellas tested again in the hope that there is an improvement but i doubt it so then we are looking at a stim again.

Kids are good Julia finally got at tooth and Owen got the top two so he is still 3 ahead of Julia. And we have crawling babies Julia is off and running and O is so close he has going backwards down pat! We took them on a plane to Sydney last week which was... interesting... lol you should have seen the guy who had the seat next to us when he realised we had twins!

Also i was wondering what you guys think of the genetic link with infertility whilst in Syd last week i caught up with my many cousins. My mother is 1 of 7 and she has 3 sisters from the 4 sisters they had 19 children so as you can imagine they were extremely fertile. My mum had the only issues she had 6 pregnancies but miscarried 3 times. So if you can still keep up from the 19 there are 9 girl cousins (myself included) 4 of us have needed AC to have children and 3 others are currently undergoing AC so thats 7.. one other is gay so will need AC to conceive.. thats 8.. and 1 is yet to try. This blew my mind!

Sorry for the ramble...

Shan
xx

[Lenny]

Shan - I love reading the stories of your little ones. That thing about genetic links with fertility issues is sometimes brought up by people who are anti IVF etc. I'm not sure i believe that you can pass it on to your kids - but I guess time will tell. I hope not I guess DS can't get endometriosis from me - but he could inherit DH's wonky sperm At least I'll be a bit better at being supportive to my kids than my parents were to me.
BW - I can't believe Sam is 7 months old...time really does fly.
BG - DD sounds so cute, I can't wait to meet her one day.
Marcellus - we have given up calling our visits to NZ 'holidays', because we seem to be more stressed and tired than if we'd stayed at home. We are planning to visit in March 2010 - eek, number 2 will be nearly 2 months, and DS will be almost two. The other passengers on the plane aren't going to like us much!

Well DH is coming home tomorrow night after being away for 2 weeks straight, and he has actually been home for about 1 week on and off in the last 5 weeks. I am not sure if I miss him - or if i just miss having someone else to help with DS. It's been hard - DS has given up looking for him, so he is just going to go crazy when he wakes up on saturday to find his daddy home. I hope the weather is nice so the two of them can go outside and run around, and let me catch up on all the things that need doing!

[onthefly]

Shannon - the mental image of that person on the plane is priceless!
Hope the FS appointment goes well.
Dunno about genetic links. There seems to have been a general increase in the number of people using AC, probably for a variety of reasons, so it's not surprising that there would be some amongst all of our relatives. One of my cousins used AC, but the others appear pretty fecund. My siblings are the only ones that haven't started families yet, actually.

WOW Lenny, how do you manage on your own for so long? Your DH needs to get a different job . Have you got some nice personal-time activities planned for when he's back?
I can completely understand why trips away, particularly if they're long and/or frequent, are anything but holidays. Let's face it, you're never really on holidays with kids.

[sazzafrazz]

Lenny, hope you all have a fantastic catch up when DH gets home. DS will go bananas when he realises. C goes a bit mad when Nige gets home after a couple of hours

Shannon, I wondered the same thing. I actually mentioned it to the FS and he almost laughed at me. Ours is diff though, being DH family. His mum and eldest sister had hysterectomies in their mid 30s, second sister almost died of heamorrage at first AF and last sister had several miscarriages plus first child was very preterm, and had preterm problems with second child. DH had undecended testes. I'm thinking all sex organs start out the same in early foetus so perhaps his problems COULD be related back to his mother. FS didnt care to discuss.

Others relate the higher incidence of AC to the environment, chemicals, electronic "stuff", foods. That could effect some families more than others if they are succeptable I guess. Hmmm, it's a tough one to think about. I do wonder if we may have passed on something to C. I sure hope not, I wouldnt want her to go through the same thing.

Shannon, I understand what you were saying about the addiction and feeling lost. I never really felt a normal part of my belly buddies group, because of being the only AC one. I also felt a bit the same with my mums group for ages. Not so much now but I do feel 'alone' when they are now starting with the next bubs. I guess it has been part of my life for over 12.5years so it's coloured a lot of what I have experienced in that time. I am having a difficult time letting go of that way of thinking. It is going to take some time to stop thinking about TTC or waiting etc. I have to retrain myself I think.

Went through all of C's baby clothes last night. Took 5 big bags to the opshop today and will be selling the rest once I have organised bundles. I have already been through the bottles, jolly jumper etc. Feels good to be decided and proactive for a change. I am amazed at how OK I am with it all actually. Not like me at all! It has given me a bit of a boost in the "appreciate all the little things that come with this age cause they wont last long" department.

Lenny, completely understand how you feel about your trips to NZ. I often feel for those who move far away like that cause you spend all your holidays with family, not really "Holidaying" and feel obligated to do it, not just for fun. Do they get out here much? How is your brother doing these days??

[sazzafrazz]

Sorry girls, I have just realised how selfish my posts have been lately. I promise it wont dominate every conversation forever, it's just been such a big one for me!

BW, can sympathise with you and your frosties. I guess just worry about it when the time comes. We were a bit the same for a while after C's traumatic birth, not knowing if we ever could go back. Just remember, you can store those bubbas for years!!!!

Hello everyone else!!! Nice to have this thread going again

[onthefly]

His mum and eldest sister had hysterectomies in their mid 30s, second sister almost died of heamorrage at first AF and last sister had several miscarriages plus first child was very preterm, and had preterm problems with second child. DH had undecended testes. I'm thinking all sex organs start out the same in early foetus so perhaps his problems COULD be related back to his mother. FS didnt care to discuss.

Oh my goodness! That's really rough for his family. Surely it couldn't all just be a coincidence...

And it's not selfish Sazz, this is a place to get it all out and to have your 'mentalness' understood.

Those little bubbies will keep BW . In time you'll know what to do.