Can I please ask that this thread remain for the purpose it was created. And that is for agnostics/athiests to discuss their belief system. There are other threads created where those who have different beliefs can discuss their faith, but please refrain from doing so here. Yes, all are welcome here but this forum is not for debates, nor are any of the other spirituality & religion threads. If anyone wishes to discuss this further you can contact me personally. But any further posts regarding this matter will be removed.