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    Default TTC & Gender Swaying #4

    This thread is for members who wish to discuss methods such as diet, intercourse timing and altering the vaginal environment in order to TTC a baby of a specific gender.
    There is an article on the Shettles Method here if you want to find out more about intercourse timing and positions to maximise your chances of concieving a specific gender. In order to use the Shettles method you will need to have an understanding of charting your cycle. You can find an article about charting here or discuss it with others in our Charting Your Cycle Forum.
    If you're experiencing feelings of gender dissappointment there is a discussion about this topic here and an article about it here

    Some diet information can be found in HERE

    Some Studies HERE

    The previous thread can be found here.
    Good Luck!!!

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    Hi girls

    Amanda, I hope you get your BFP in the next couple of days!! I looked at your chart and noticed you are doing Shettles and o+12... are you doing anything else atm?

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    Hi Tanya, ummm I'm also taking calcium and magnesium tablets and both DH and I are taking cranberry tablets for pH. I actually a bit worried about the temp dip this morning, so I guess I'll have to see how today and tomorrow pan out.

    hugs xoxo

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    Hi Girls

    I just received this email from the Candace Hopkins Gender Selection Website and wanted you all to read it. We are TTC a girl and I admit to using the vinegar once. Luckily I received this email today - just before I was going to try the vinegar again. Please pass this information to everyone you know - it has really freaked me out.

    * WARNING Notice *
    ~ You MUST read this! ~

    January 12, 2008
    I would like to take the opportunity to warn you about a well known and commonly used method to balance the woman's pH level that could possibly hurt you and your baby.
    Unfortunately, a lot of women are using this method to raise or lower the pH level of their reproductive tract depending on which gender they wish to conceive:
    The use of water & vinegar OR
    water & baking soda vaginal douche!

    The chemicals in vaginal douches may irritate your vagina
    and change the normal balance of good bacteria.
    Douching also can spread an infection from your vagina or cervix up into the uterus, increasing your risk of getting pelvic inflammatory disease (also called PID).
    PID is a painful infection of the fallopian tubes that can cause you to be unable to get pregnant. Please don't take this issue lightly.
    Here's an article on the subject from the Office on Women's Health in the Department of Health and Human Services of
    the United States:
    * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *


    Douching is rinsing or cleaning out the vagina (also called the birth canal) by squirting water or other solutions (such as vinegar, baking soda, or douching solutions you can buy at drug and grocery stores) right into the vagina.
    The water or solutions are held in a bottle and squirted into the vagina through tubing and a nozzle.
    Health care providers do NOT recommend douching because it changes the delicate chemical balance in the vagina (and the vaginal flora), which can make
    a woman more prone to bacterial infections.
    It also can spread existing vaginal or cervical infections up into the pelvic organs, including
    the uterus, fallopian tubes and ovaries.
    Research shows that women who douche tend to have more problems than women who do not douche.

    These problems include:
    • Vaginal irritation
    • Vaginal infections (bacterial vaginosis or BV)
    • Sexually transmitted diseases (STDs)
    • Pelvic inflammatory disease (PID)
    Women who douche are also more at risk for getting pelvic inflammatory disease (PID). PID is an infection of a woman's pelvic organs.
    It is caused by bacteria, which can travel from a woman's vagina and cervix up into her pelvic organs. It can lead to ectopic pregnancy (pregnancy in the fallopian tube instead of the uterus) and infertility
    (not being able to get pregnant).
    Both BV and PID can lead to serious problems during pregnancy, such as infection in the baby, problems with labor, and early delivery.
    Research has shown that douching may affect a woman's ability to get pregnant. In women trying
    to become pregnant, those who douched had the lowest pregnancy rate.
    Other research has shown a link between douching and having low birth-weight babies.
    Studies also show that douching greatly increases
    the chance of ectopic pregnancy, which can be a
    life-threatening condition.
    Ectopic pregnancy is when the fertilized egg attaches inside of the fallopian tube instead of in the uterus.

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    Well AF turned up this morning so I'm out for another month, well onto month 4, hopefully this will be the one for us.

    I hope that everyone is doing well.

    hugs xoxo

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    Hi AmandaJ

    sorry to hear the news. that nasty old cow (af) just wont take the hint sometimes that she is not welcome!!!

    Keep your chin up. Have a glass of something boozey.

    Maybe next time.

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    We talked about douching a bit in the last thread. Does the "Bi-carb finger" have the same implications as douching, as suggested in Claesmummy's post? Opinions anyone??? Cos I was thinking of giving it a go... but... hmmm...

    Also I have slight Ov pain and full ferning on maybe baby but no EW CM. Temp is still steady within a couple of points, no drastic dip or spike yet. Am I close or is it NOW??? or what??? Last time I Ov'ed it turned into a daughter but she is nearly 7 now... I've forgetten so much as we have only just begun TTC again recently.

    I'm trying to read all the info I can but I am just confusing myself. Thank goodness for BB.
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    myson with O pain it usually happens between 12-24hrs after the pain so hopefully you will O tomorrow. Not to sure about the Bi-carb finger, didn't Mikloaz use that?

    I hope you catch the eggie.

    hugs xoxo

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    Amanda, I am sorry to hear AF showed :hugs:

    Claesmummy , douching is only done around the time of O, I think the problem your email is pointing out is pertaining more to women who doche all the time.
    Health care providers do NOT recommend douching because it changes the delicate chemical balance in the vagina
    That's exactly why you do it when swaying...

    Tanya

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    Thanks AmandaJ
    I hope so too. But it took me 2 yrs to get pg with both my girls and this is my first month TTC so I shouldn't get my hopes up really. But of course I have... stupid hormones... stupid bio clock. I have no control over them! lol

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    Afternoon Girls.

    AmandaJ - Sorry to hear she came again (Af), Damm her Damm her to hell!.
    Myson - i did do bir carb thing, I was VERY nervous too. i have read that review as well but also read that if you do it just the once it should be ok. I have had no problems so far (cross fingers), although i did miss a hear beat when i read it again, especially now I am BFP.

    I did not realise how difficult it was for some woman to fall pregnant & my heart goes out to you all that have trouble (praying for you all)

    Tanya: Are you saying i am safe to be doing it just that once? (Bi Carb Douching thing) I hope so

    MySon - i am not sure about the EWCM not being there.. can u grab a OPK as well they are pretty spot on. Boy thoughts fluttering your way
    xx

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    Thanks Miklaoz. Are you feeling well?

    My temp dipped this morning and there is a little EW today so maybe this is it. But i dont want to jump in too early. will do an opk later today maybe. If my temp spikes tomorrow I will be sure, but will it be too late by then???

    I wont stress too much if i miss the eggie this month (well thats what i keep telling myself anyway) cos it is our first go, and i will be much more prepared by next month i think.

    I have been charting for 8 weeks but this is my first ov since having implanon removed. still waiting for regularity to return.

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    Hi All,

    I am in my first month of TTC baby #2. I am hoping to have a girl this time around, but if I get another boy, I will love him just the same. Anyway, I have read through all the gender swaying posts and am going to give the 2-3 day cut off and PH a try.

    Just a question, I measured my PH this morning and it was a 7! Im still another 5-7 days from O, but does the PH level change throughout the cycle or is it constant?

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    hi all,
    can someone please tell me what the methods are for having boys? have o pains today so will bd tonight and tomorrow. fingers & toes crossed

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    Hi tay tay and diamond girl,

    welcome and GL to you both.

    From what i have read your ph level is a major determining factor for gender selection. here is a great post from the previous thread with lots of suggestions.



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    There are two methods for ttc a boy: Modified swim up and TBM:
    **When sucking up the little spermies and "implanting" them into the V, you need to do this slowly. Not just a quick squirt. The reasoning is that the force will break the tails off the sperm, thus paralyzing them from moving toward the goal.

    Modified swim up for ttc a boy:

    The principle of this method is Y sperm thrives on the perfect pH (8-9.9.) So if we provided that pH it will encourage the y sperm over the x sperm. Also that a small percentage of the X-bearing sperm are the fastest, followed by the Y-bearing sperm, then slowest are the majority of X-bearing sperm. Semen is placed in the bottom of a test tube and the sperm swim upwards through an egg white-like substance, to the top of the tube. By way of timing (first to arrive are discarded), the Y-bearing sperm (second to arrive) are selected and used for TBM.

    *Have dh ingest caffeine one hour before sample is given

    For this method you will need:

    Test tube
    Incubator (approx 99F)
    Microscope (best magnification between 100x - 300x)
    Instead cup
    1 Pasteurized REAL chicken egg (use WHITES only)
    Pasteurized powdered egg whites (from box)
    Bottled distilled water
    2 x medicine droppers
    Cup or condom for dh's sample
    pH strips
    Baking soda douche + douche bottle or needleless syringe

    Egg White Mix Recipe:

    First check real EW pH. If it is less than 10 then you don’t need to do this. ….Using a fork gently mix: WHITE ONLY from 1 PASTEURIZED CHICKEN EGG + 1/2 teaspoon of REAL EGG WHITE POWDER + 1/2 teaspoon of DISTILLED WATER. pH of this mixture should be 9.

    The pH of the egg whites is extremely important. If your egg whites don't have a pH between 9-9.9 then you either need to lower the pH (if it is a 10) or use a different egg (even if it is unpasteurized- salmonella is found in the yolk)

    Baking Soda Douche Recipe:

    Dissolve: 2 tablespoons of BAKING SODA + 1 liter of warm WATER. Let solution sit for 10 minutes before use.

    The Method:

    Step 1: Dh to DTD in a cup or condom.

    Step 2: Place semen in bottom of test tube-note the measurement.

    Step 3: Gently place an equal amount of egg white mixture on top of semen in test tube (ie, 2mls of egg white solution, if 2mls of semen). This should remain floating on top of semen.

    Step 4: Place test tube in incubator at a 45 degree angle (temp in incubator should be approx 99F, you may have to put a light towel around base it to reach this temp but do NOT go over 104F as this will slow the sperm down). *Take note of time, or set a timer for 1 hour.

    Step 5: Douche a small amount of the above Baking Soda + Water Recipe using a medicine dropper or douche bottle.

    Step 6: After 1 hour, use a medicine dropper to suck up a small portion (approx 20% or 0.4mls, if total was 2mls egg white used) off the TOP of test tube. Looking under the microscope, these should be the 'super-fast' X-bearing sperm (if no sperm are found in this very top, then take another portion until the fastest sperm are detected). Discard this portion.

    Step 7: Using a different medicine dropper, suck up the next 'section' of mixture (rest of egg white mix). Looking under the microscope, these sperm should appear fast (just use a little for the microscope.) These are majority Y-bearing sperm. Keep this portion. Only keep Egg white mix to insert, Semen will not be used.

    Step 8: You may want to now double check that the last portion, which you should only have semen remaining, has the slowest sperm. Make sure you don't mix these up with the portion above! Discard these slow swimmers.

    Step 9: Optional: Insert a small amount of EW to coat your cervix and surrounding area. This is highly recommended if there is a lack of ewcm.

    Step 10: Gently transfer the sperm/egg white mix into the 'instead cup'. Secure the cup around your cervix (this can be left for up to 12 hours, then removed).

    TBM for boy This method is for ttc a ds. The principle of this method is that the Y sperm thrive in an alkaline environment. By artificially creating this environment the theory is that the Y sperm will become more energized and strengthened by using the perfect pH. This will give the Y sperm an advantage over the X sperm.

    For this method you will need:

    Instead cup
    1 Pasteurized REAL chicken egg (use WHITES only)
    Pasteurized powdered egg whites (from box if pH of egg isn’t right)
    Bottled distilled water (if pH of egg isn’t right)
    Cup or condom for dh's sample
    pH strips
    Baking soda douche + douche bottle or needleless syringe
    Egg White Mix Recipe:

    First check real EW pH. If it is less than 10 then you don’t need to do this. ….Using a fork gently mix: WHITE ONLY from 1 PASTEURIZED CHICKEN EGG + 1/2 teaspoon of REAL EGG WHITE POWDER + 1/2 teaspoon of DISTILLED WATER. pH of this mixture should be 9.

    The pH of the egg whites is extremely important. If your egg whites don't have a pH between 9-9.9 then you either need to lower the pH (if it is a 10) or use a different egg (even if it is unpasteurized- salmonella is found in the yolk)

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    Baking Soda Douche Recipe: -->-->

    Dissolve: 2 tablespoons of BAKING SODA + 1 liter of warm WATER. Let solution sit for 10 minutes before use.

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    The Method:-->-->

    Step 1: Have dh ingest caffeine one hour before sample is given -->-->

    Step 2: .Douche one hour before TBM-->-->

    Step 3: . If no ewcm apply ew

    Step 4: Dh to DTD in a cup or condom-->-->

    Step 5. Place semen in bottom instead cup-->-->

    Step 9: : Gently place an equal amount of egg white mixture on top of semen in instead cup-->-->

    Step 10 Put in instead cup and leave for 90 minutes. Try to O as often as possible before and after instead cup is inserted.


    Here is some more boy tips I stole


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    The only thing that is 100% is PGD but we feel swaying can change the odds into our favor. Here you will find a lot of the information that is key for a good swaying attempt. It is up to you to find the right ‘recipe’ or ‘path’ that will be your attempt for a son. We are here to offer support, guidance and answer any questions you might have. There are many things you can do to sway the odds and here is the information that we hope will be helpful to you. The basic idea is that y sperm love a high pH from 8-9.9. When exposed to this pH they will thrive. Also y sperm love potassium and when potassium gets into the molecular level of cervical mucus it helps to ‘guide’ them to there destination faster than x sperm. Sperm count is highest when abstained from 2-6 days with day 4 being the highest and day 7 seeing a dramatic drop off (high sperm count favors y sperm.) Finally, although timing isn’t a proved theory, it is best to time bd near O if possible because this is when cm pH is the highest. Ok here is the rest of the info:

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    Boy diet-->-->

    There is some studies that suggest the food you eat can affect the gender outcome of your children. So, for the boy diet I did a little comparison between the boy diet (studies show this favors boys), the Potassium diet (potassium favors y sperm), the alkaline diet (effects pH) and the testosterone diet (high testosterone favors boys). You would try to eat off of this from one threw 4- One being the most important and 4 being the least. When doing the boy diet you must be adding salt as much as possible. However salt depletes the body of folic acid and your risk of miscarriage goes up when you don't have enough folic acid. So PLEASE take folic acid supplements when you are on this diet. If you have high blood pressure you should avoid the boy diet. Rather concentrate on the alkaline diet while cutting out dairy



    Boy cookbook:

    Tier one
    Here are the foods that are on all three diets with no calcium or very little calcium in them:

    ice burger lettuce (all other lettuce has calcium)
    Celery
    Tomato's- all forms

    Baby Carrots
    V8

    Peaches
    Pairs

    Tier two
    Here are the foods on the boy diet and the potassium diet with little or no calcium in them:

    Meat- most meat but not fish
    Potato's - very high is potassium!
    Apricots
    Cantaloupe
    Bananas

    Oranges
    Apples
    Cherries
    Pineapples

    Gelatin
    White rice
    Watermelon (magnesium is found in the seeds- do not eat seeds)

    Tier 3
    Here is the foods on the boy diet and the Alkaline diet.

    Dates, dried apricots, dried dates and dried figs. canned soups,

    Tier 4
    This would be the individual diets in order of importance but avoiding all calcium.

    Testosterone diet: gelatin, peanuts, wheat

    You can replace milk with a non-dairy creamer (just make sure it has no calcium)

    Plain Pasta is a neutral food. It contains none of the minerals on any of the diets.

    Drinks

    Baking soda drink- One of the fastest ways to raise pH that has been discovered is baking soda drink. It is very important to follow the direction on the box. When baking soda is consumed it is a drug and you can over dose on it. You must also make sure that the powder is completely dissolved because unresolved baking soda can cause ulcers. You drink this from Af to O. If you do this you must take Folic acid every day.

    Appe Cidar Vinegar (acv) drink: drink 8 oz water, 2 T ACV, 1/2 tsp BS four times a day for a week. If you do this you must take folic acid evey day.

    Cream of tartar drink. Cream of tartar is pure potassium and when added to water it becomes easly absorbed by the body. You can't have any more than 7 tsp a day.. you need to build up gradually. Only side effect is diaherea if taken to much. You can add one tsp of cot to 1/2 tsp bs and 4 oz of water- mix well and wait for fizzing to stop. If you do this you must take Folic acid every day.

    Lemon or lime water- Lemons and limes are acidic out of the body. But once consumed they have a chemical reaction with the acidic in the stomach that make them super alkaline. When ttc you want to drink 66-120+ oz of water a day, so why not make it lemon? You can use any form of lemon (fresh or bottled) and you add enough till you can taste it. Lemon is more alkaline than lime however; lemon has just a little less calcium than lime.

    Potassium Drink: 1 cup V8
    2-6 heaped tbls. nutritional yeast flakes (start with smaller amount)
    Potassium- 800-1,800 mg. Protein- 8-24 grams

    All other drinks- Some recommend mineral water for ttc a boy. This is ok as long as you can find one with no calcium or magnesium. Caffeine can be consumed by the dh once a day- any more and it will drop sperm count. DW can consume caffeine but remember that coffee is acidic and not to drink diet pop (diet pop is acidic). Juices need to follow the boy diet making sure the fruit is listed as boy safe--> The following are great for ttc a boy: tomato juice ( very high Na and K, low Ca and Mg), Pineapple J, lemon j, apple j and grapefruit juice.( about 10mg of Ca and Mg per 100g for all of them.

    The supplements

    Supplements are to increase cervical mucus pH. Studies show that high pH favors boy conceptions. These are the supplements I have found. The goal of the boy diet is to increase potassium in the cm and to change pH; the goal of supplements is to change pH and make EWCM. Here are all the supplements that I have heard of for ttc a boy. Granted there may be more. They key here is for you to find the right 'recipe' to make high pH with ewcm with potassium mixed in- this is the goal. Remember.. it is better to take supplements in liquid form if you can find that because it is more easily absorbed by the body

    For the dw:

    *Evening Primrose Oil (EPO) 1000mg~ Increases cm and ewcm. Take 2-3 capsules per day from last day of period until ovulation

    Robitussum or (Guaifenesin tablets) 400mg~ Helps thin out cm.May be taken from last day of period until 3 days after ovulation. Take 2 tsp about 3 times per day-Mucinex over-the counter

    Alka Selzter Gold~ Makes cm more alkaline.Drink 1before bed, starting from last day of period until ovulation

    *Green Tea 315mg~ Helps loosen cm and improves overall fertility. Drink 2-3 cups per day starting from last day of period. Can also be taken in the form of tablets, 2-3 tablets per

    Potassium pills 99mg- Makes cm more alkaline add potassium to cm. Only a little is absorbed with pills. More is absorbed with diet.


    Fertile-cm- (ewcm and alkaline) Increase female testosterone, take 3 a day with 66+ oz of water

    False unicorn (ewcm, alkaline)- (suppose to help regulate cycle after depo-provera shot)

    E 400iu-Strengthens lining of egg

    Fish Oil 100 mg- EWCM and makes cm more alkaline (only take recommended amount, not meant for dh)

    Folic acid 800-1000mg –strengthens egg and prevents miscarrage and is needed while on the boy diet

    *Flaxseed Oil 1000mg -increase cm

    *Alfalfa (alkalizes) 650 mg-Only take from Af to O (DO NOT take with Black Cohosh)
    *contains fake estrogen- could lengthen your cycle.

    For Dh:

    **alfalfa (alkalizes) 650mg -As many as needed to rise semen pH to a 9

    Zinc (raises testostrone) 50mg -One a day no more

    B-12 150mg -Repairs sperm count if dh has caffeen on a daily bases (daily caffeen isn't recommended)

    ginseng 500mg- raises testostrone

    L-arginine 500mg- raises pH and sperm count

    Vitamin E- raies sperm count

    **Bs drink is better for dh at raise his pH then alfalfa because alfalfa has photoestrogens. However, if your dh wont take bs drink then alfalfa will work fine

    Other supplments:

    For prevention of mc these supplements can be taken by the dw. These can be used for ttc a boy or a girl except for false unicorn which is a boy supplement

    Vitamin E- this strengthens the outer shell of the egg and helps with implantation

    Folic acid- this strengthens the inners part of the egg

    Vitamin B12- makes folic acid work better (b6 also lengths luteal phase)

    Zinc- this repairs any of the egg that may have been damaged and also helps with implantation

    False unicorn- This helps the egg (don't know how), helps with implantation and helps to maintain a pregnancy.

    The hardest part is trying to decide what to take. I know for a fact that you can not mix Alfalfa with black cohosh so I don't even have that supplement on this list. After O the only safe suppleness are Fertile-Cm, false unicorn, fish oil, vitamin E, folic acid and flaxseed oil. Because the rest have been know to cause problems with miscarriage.

    Optimal pH of cm should be
    7.5-9

    Optimal pH of dh semen should be 9+

    Other tips:

    Pre-seed or real egg whites are being used by some to sway for a boy. So is Sea salt baths or baking soda baths and cold showers. I think everyone is using a baking soda douche. This is all based on an environment theory that an Alkaline one produces boys. There is another theory called Shettles the believes it is all timing (O day = boy) Great thing about this is you can do both theories. I personally believe it is more about environment though because my last dd was conceived on O day. I also have a doc friend that says the more you bd the more you will have a girl and vice-versa. Lemon water has a huge but gradual effect on female cm pH. You should drink 66-100+oz a day of this. Also Oing 3 times a day for a week is suppose to raise female pH. Finally some are using instead cups after bd to hold the y sperm up there longer so they get a chance to swim. For ttc a boy you should avoid using the following products because they have been found to lower female testosterone (which favors boys) Nail polish remove, Nail polish, and anything with Aerosols.

    For dh you need him to stay away from hot showers and baths. He needs to not wear tight fighting underwear. He also should try to get on the boy diet and he needs to raise his semen pH to a 9+. He can raise pH with alfalfa or other ‘green’ supplements. His pH can be changed quickly with these- he should take as much needed the day before bd to achieve high pH. An hour before bd time he needs to consume large amounts of caffeine. Also if he rubs ice on the family jewels once a day this is rumored to help the y sperm along. Finally, sperm count is highest in the morning so try to time bd then.

    The Moon

    There is no doubt that the moon can sometimes have and effect on gender if ones body responds to it. Here is the scientific reason behind why this might be and how you can alter that effect if you need to. The theory is that a different sperm have different ions. Now when there is a full moon out it is scientific fact that there are positive ions in the air and we breathe it. When there is a new moon out there are negative ions in the air and you inhaling that as well. The theory is that some peoples bodies react to these ions just like nature does (Google crops and moon, or fish and moon). So when there is a full moon those positive ions cause your egg to have positive ions thus attracting the y sperm. Now if you are O’ing in a new moon you need to try to counteract the effects of the negative ions. You can do this with electrical equipment like an electric blanket, because machines running on electricity omit positive ions or you can buy products for magnate therapy (making sure to use the positive ions also called polar south). (If you are reading this and are ttc a girl then you need to Google rock salt deionizers to counteract the effects of a full moon or use magnate therapy using negative ions- polar north)

    Info on pH strips and retrieving cm

    There are two pH strips you want to look for. Alkalive and full range (also called universal). These are found the cheapest on ebay (search pH strips then select lowest to highest price.) Alkalive can measure between numbers like a 6.75 but can be hard to read so you need a back up. The full range strips will only read one number- no between but they are very easy to read.

    How to retrieve cm….TMI!!! You reach up inside your V and with your finger you touch the cervix. Then you hook your finger and pull out. The cm on the tip of your finger is the one you want to test. The cm closest to your cervix is the most alkaline and the cm on the edges of your v is acidic. Wipe this on the pH strip and wait for up to 10 minutes depending on how much water is in your cm. If your pH strip doesn’t change and you have tried several times to test pH; this means you have low ionic strength in your cm (which could indicate a very low pH). Union pH only tells you how you are doing with your diet and supplements that day- it does not help with swaying besides that.
    To test dh pH you have him give a sample in a cup or a condom. Then test that sample with pH strips right away (the longer semen sits out the higher the pH goes and you want to know his initial pH).

    Baking Soda Douche

    To help conceive a baby boy use an Alkaline Douche

    Dissolve two tablespoons of baking soda in one liter of warm water and mix.
    Let the solution stand for approximately 10 minutes.
    One hour before intercourse stir the solution again then insert some of the solution into the vagina (This can be done with a douche or a syringe ~ both available at pharmacies).
    While inserted, empty the douche or syringe slowly and gently preferably while lying down to ensure maximum effect.

    Baking Soda Finger

    This is for women who can’t do baking soda douche because of susceptibility to infections, but still want to raise there pH before bd. An hour before bd make sure your hands are clean and then you wet the tip of your finger (some say middle finger is easier) then dip it in baking soda. Then, sit down on the toilet and insert your finger with the baking soda and pull out. If tested right away your cm should go from low to high (4.5 to 7-8) and stay that way for up to four hours. You might be able to smell the baking soda, but it shouldn’t burn or hurt. Big thing to remember is to make sure not to actually touch your cervix. It has been said that it would burn pretty badly if you did. -->-->

    How to use egg whites or Pre-seed

    Egg whites: Goal pH of egg whites is 9-9.9 and the fresher the egg the better the pH.
    Normal pH of egg whites:

    Real eggs in cold refrigeration separated whites; non-pasteurized: 10+
    Pasteurized from real egg separated whites 8-10+
    Pasteurized egg whites from box (with additives) 8-9
    Powered egg whites 6.5
    Farm fresh eggs- never refrigerated, non-pasteurized, separated 9-9.9

    The pH of the egg whites is extremely important. If your egg whites don't have a pH between 9-9.9 then you either need to lower the pH (if it is a 10) or use a different egg (even if it is unpasteurized- salmonella is found in the yolk)

    Egg White Mix Recipe:
    How to lower pH :

    First check real EW pH. If it is less than 10 then you don’t need to do this. ….Using a fork gently mix: Mix whites of egg with 1/2 teaspoon of real egg white powered + 1/2 teaspoon of distilled water. pH of this mixture should be 9.

    How to raise pH:
    Week before attempt wash egg shells in soap and water. Place in eggs either in a glass bowl or other non-plastic container and let them sit in there for a wee-

    Egg whites can provide a mucus-like environment which is sperm friendly. Take an egg out of the fridge set it on the counter for approximately 1 hour, so it can reach room temp. Before DTD, crack open the egg separate the yolk from the white then check pH of egg white; and then insert the room temperature white gently into your vagina. Worried about bacteria? It is the yolk not the egg white that would carry bacteria.

    Pre-seed mix:
    Pre-seed has a pH of 7. To ttc a boy you need at least a pH of 8. To raise pH of pre-seed place pre-seed in a paper cup. Then mix about 4 pinches of baking soda in with it by stirring. The pre-seed might change colors to white but it still should have the same consistency. Check pH of pre-seed to make sure it is an 8. Suck up pre-seed with dropper and use as needed.


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    ok,

    EWCM - check
    Pos. OPK - check
    CPos High - check
    Ferning - check
    Temp - ???? dip yesterday, back to average today??? whats with that???
    Preconception vitamins - check (8weeks worth)
    Boy supplements - check (8 weeks worth)
    alkalinised system - check
    DH - unavailable until midnight tomorrow

    well lets hope we dont miss that sneaky little egg. if we do it wont be through lack of trying. and then the TWW of impending insanity ( more so than usual ) cant wait!

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    Myson: oohohh i was so excited for you and ready to ask why your on here with us rather than getting busy!. But DH?? yeah kinda need him in this one..... Keep up the Alkaline (not sure what your method is) and keep that PH high...

    Taytay: Have you got OPK? Check that and BD away I read through those methods and i was squirming around for them sounds all too technical to me, i would rather just try what i can and go for it. Just make sure yur PH is high. Re read what the girls have written in previous threads. That is what i did. good luck!


    Diamondgirl: Maybe you could douche (if you feel comfortable about this) i think Tanya said if it is done the once your ok.


    Myson: thank you for asking (i am feeling)... i am sure the body is confused i seem to get a little yucky in the afternoon about 2.00 for a few hours and extremely tired (i lay and watch playschool with the kids) and by 5.00 or so i am feeling better. Blue thoughts for you... I think if you DTD tomorrow your so fine...... I know what you mean about too mcuh information!!!!

    PS: make sure you give the DH a nice tall glass of coke or hot coffee about 1 hours before. (boy)

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    Hi we have a 11month old son and are going to start trying for number 2 soon.
    We were wondering if anyone had any ideas how we could conceive a girl?
    Thanks

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