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    I had a hcg blood test yesterday, at 17dpo, and my hcg measured at 2174. Isn't this quite high? Could I be having twins????


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    heyWelshgirl =D> congratulations on your BFP

    I am pregnant with IVF twins 15dpo mine was 448
    941 17dpo
    4415 22dpo

    I was sure of my dates - so if you are sure of your dates this HCG is high - could be twins - maybe ask DR for a repeat level.

    Goodluck

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    Gwen

    I really don`t think you can tell by your HCG levels if your carrying twins as this pregnancy I conceived twins and @ 24DPO my HCG levels were 600, which was extremely low for a singleton pregnancy let alone twins, but alas I was pregnant with twins, I did loose one of my babies 2 weeks later.

    So after my levels being so low in a twin pregnancy I truly believe the only way you can tell is via an u/s.

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    Hi WelshGirl

    HCG levels will only tell you if you are pregnant, not how many babies you are having

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    From my experience on a number of AC forums and talking to many IVFer's whose Fertility specialist (FS) Dr's especially - say a high HCG does indicate a possibly of twins and so far a few of the the girls in Pregnancy after longterm trying to concieve and another forum elsewhere I belong too with 3 set of twins on the way prove this assumption. We all have higher HCG than our IVF buddies at our first and subsequent blood tests.

    There are another two in the wings with very high HCG in last week or so. One lady's Dr said it was highly possible for 'twins' ~ so we are all waiting to see if one or two. They at least have more of an idea as they transferred two embryos.


    BFP for me! HCG 1305... We put back two embies and FS said that the hcg levels are high enough to be twins -
    I think was before 17dpo.

    I would ask your GP for an early scan @7wks to be sure and a dating scan. By then they can see two sacs /babies and even a heartbeat (or two)

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    Could be an indication but not always you may just have high hCG levels
    My levels were 240 at 13dpo and then 10,296 at 24dpo and in our u/s at 5w6d they saw only one baby and heartbeat.
    There is always a poss it IS two but highly unlikely.

    Good luck!

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    Hi Anna
    you were one who also thought it was twins due to your high HCG because it can be a indicator .You are right high HCG doesn't guarantee - 'not always'. It isn't necessarily highly unlikely- you just can't be sure or draw definate conclusions

    Welsh girl I googled this other info.

    Twins or Higher Pregnancies
    Twin pregnancies tend to show higher HCG levels on a given day of pregnancy. Twin HCG levels fall within the reported range of singletons, so, you can't assume anything based on the level alone. A higher level on a given day does increase your chances for twins, but there's no level above which you're guaranteed twins.
    Singleton and vanishing twin pregnancies have a wide range of acceptable HCG levels on a given day.
    Your HCG Levels
    Check with your physician about your own levels. In addition, do not try to draw conclusions on either the viability of your fetus or the possibility of multiples, unless you have a series of HCG tests done that clearly indicate a pattern.
    Sometimes those with initial high levels - but only one baby on u/s have what is known as disappearing twin and this isn't always evident an early u/s. The sac may not be seen.

    I know of a twin mother who had an early scan and they only saw one heartbeat but there were actually two at 12wks. Experts believe there are many more twin conceptions but they only progress to singleton baby - without any significant bleeding or any other signs. Just reabsorbed by body.

    In IVF it is common when two embryos are implanted but only one progresses.Even with Clomid usage.

    By the way - here are the range of normal HCG levels

    * At 14 DPO, the average HCG level is 48 mIU/ml, with a typical range of 17-119 mIU/ml.
    * At 15 DPO, the average HCG level is 59 mIU/ml, with a typical range of 17-147 mIU/ml.
    * At 16 DPO, the average HCG level is 95 mIU/ml, with a typical range of 33-223 mIU/ml.
    * At 17 DPO, the average HCG level is 132 mIU/ml, with a typical range of 17-429 mIU/ml.
    * At 18 DPO, the average HCG level is 292 mIU/ml, with a typical range of 70-758 mIU/ml.
    * At 19 DPO, the average HCG level is 303 mIU/ml, with a typical range of 111-514 mIU/ml.
    * At 20 DPO, the average HCG level is 522 mIU/ml, with a typical range of 135-1690 mIU/ml.
    * At 21 DPO, the average HCG level is 1061 mIU/ml, with a typical range of 324-4130 mIU/ml.
    * At 22 DPO, the average HCG level is 1287 mIU/ml, with a typical range of 185-3279 mIU/ml.
    * At 23 DPO, the average HCG level is 2034 mIU/ml, with a typical range of 506-4660 mIU/ml.
    * At 24 DPO, the average HCG level is 2637 mIU/ml, with a typical range of 540-10,000 mIU/ml.

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    I must be an odd one out with my HCG levels, thinking about it last night I mentioned I was 24DPO - this was correct for one baby for the other I was 16DPO so I wonder if that had an effect on my HCG levels being so low :-k

    Trish - Your correct there are many twin pregnancies out there which do vanish and the mother`s never know, my OB looked up his trusty book to see how common it is for a woman to loose a twin baby it happens 1 in every 5 twin pregnancies. With modern day ultrasounds these vanishing twins are now being picked up before being reabsorded by the mother, imagine years ago a woman may have thought her bleeding was her AF but in fact it was her miscarrying one of her twins, then she goes on and wonders why we gave birth 1 month early.

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    Dee - I am so sorry about your twin loss - I was thinking about you as I posted. You will never forget you other little one. Especially the amazing bittersweet news you were still pregnant with the other twin when you thought you had m/c a single bub.

    You ovulated twice -is that correct ? so the babies were slightly different gestation days. It might explain it.

    Yes - I have heard of people having babies 'supposed early' but them still being like fullterm babies or bigger. This would explain it.

    Another lady, Ali here had a vanishing twin (IVF) and has just come back to BB (no internet access).

    Years ago they didn't even pick up twins till delivery :shock: - I posted about my friend (B/G set) the Dr's could ony ever hear one heartbeat because the Boy was on top and she underneath.

    Their mum was so huge they were doing C/S anyway because they thought she was having a huge 12lb'er LOL - what a :shock: she got after she woke up from GA.

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    Thanks Trish - I certainly have my good weeks and bad weeks and with each ultrasound I find I grieve for my little loss baby but feeling this baby giving me huge kicks helps a lot, I never thought I`d get this far into my pregnancy..

    Yes I ovulated twice, 8 days apart, I`m assuming this baby I`m carrying was conceived from my 2nd time I ovulated hence why only 1 sac was seen at 6 weeks as this baby would have been only 4 weeks, 6 days which I think is too soon to see a sac?

    Wow your friend would have had a lot to get used to, but what a wonderful surprise to her and her DH and family, she must have thought she was dreaming at first.

    There seems to be a number of us on BB who have had a vanishing twin loss.

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    Yep, high HCG levels can be an indicator - but they certainly don't guarantee twins.

    I had high levels too - but there's one little sausage in there.

    Trish - my grandmother had twins and didn't know she was having them until delivery! LOL

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    Dee - it was my friends mother - sorry if it wasn't clear. But the lady had 4 previous children actually said she thought it was 'twins' because of all the odd movements all over at same time. Then the lady had another baby 12 months - 2wks later.

    Mel - I bet there were lots of surprise Twins in the 'olden days' - imagine it.

    Yes I heard need to be at least over 5 weeks to see a sac - that is why EP are sometimes not picked up till later because they wait to see a sac or not ?

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    I had a blood test on tuesday and my HCG levels came back at 2162. I am currently 6 weeks and 3 days is this high, could I be having twins?

    I am already showing?

    Ally

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    I think it is still in normal ranges of a single bub if you look above - goodluck anyway - congratulations on your BFP

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    Thanks for all the great info. I'm having a scan this morning! Last week there was only one sac, so it's probably not twins. What was i thinking!

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    Goodluck for your scan Welshgirl -let us know how you go

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    How did you go with your scan Gwen?

    Ally - I`d love to see Dr McGrath`s expression if you turned up with twins, when he saw 2 sacs when he did my u/s he was a bit worried knowing how high risk twin pregnancies are and this was when I was already classed as high risk. When are you having your scan?

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    Hi Dee

    I have my appointment with Dr McGrath on the 15th of March. The receptionest said he will more then likely do a scan on this day. when I was pregnant with my first son he never did a scan at his office, is this a new procedure he does there now?

    Ally

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